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Author Topic: Ornithogalum gifbergense  (Read 3649 times)

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Re: Ornithogalum giftsbergensis
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2009, 06:35:47 AM »
The right name is O. giftbergensis without the "s".
See my posting earlier !
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Re: Ornithogalum giftbergensis
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 12:48:29 PM »
Thanks Luc.

Alberto says it's name should be Ornithogallum ciliiferum but there is only one reference by name on the internet

Luc can you you tell us more about this plant?
« Last Edit: November 29, 2009, 12:52:15 PM by mark smyth »
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Re: Ornithogalum giftsbergensis
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2009, 02:17:35 PM »
The right name is O. giftbergensis without the "s".
See my posting earlier !

 Thanks, Luc...... but I still can't find anything!  :-X :-\
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Re: Ornithogalum giftbergensis
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2009, 05:04:13 PM »
Thanks Luc.

Alberto says it's name should be Ornithogallum ciliiferum but there is only one reference by name on the internet

Luc can you you tell us more about this plant?

I obtained this plant from Mike Salmon some 15 years ago.
I can't tell you more than it is a S. African monocot, nearly evergreen and half-hardy.
Maybe the botanists changed its name since ?
Luc Scheldeman
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Re: Ornithogalum giftbergensis
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 06:41:17 PM »
Source; Kew Checklist. The plant is possibly Ornithogalum gifbergense a synonym of O. ciliiferum.

See http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/namedetail.do?accepted_id=283099&repSynonym_id=-9998&name_id=283091&status=false
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Re: Ornithogalum gifbergensis
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2009, 07:06:47 PM »
Thanks for the correct spelling Ornithogalum gifbergense and masses of hits on Google
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ornithogalum+gifbergense&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=null&oq=ornithogalum+GIFBERGENSE
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Re: Ornithogalum gifbergensis
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2009, 07:28:49 PM »
Well, some google hits, but none terribly illuminating!

This from the PBS' Mary Sue Ittner in 2003 is the most informative I've found so far... http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-February/012599.html
(the rest are mostly  of the : for X see Y, for Y see X variety.  beloved of dodgy encyclopaedias)



Ornithogalum gifbergense U.Müll.-Doblies & D.Müll.-Doblies
=Ornithogalum ciliiferum U.Müll.-Doblies & D.Müll.-Doblies (1996)
Ecology and distribution
South. Afr. : perennial-Geophyte- Ht up to 0.25 m.in states: NC, WC  ... is about as good as it seems to get! 
 






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Re: Ornithogalum gifbergense
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2009, 08:49:29 PM »
Needless-to-say it's not on our Bio Index but I think I can live withoput it anyway. ::)
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Ornithogalum giftsbergensis
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2009, 07:19:07 AM »
Nah, Lesley, I think he's just kidding us, by asking if WE want to pay for the WRA !

The "cost" of a WRA is the time to fill out an 8 page document and do all the research needed to prove that the plant won't become a weed. If the submission is accepted it can still take years for the name to appear on ICON. And, no, O. ciliiferum isn't on ICON either. So if we want it we'll have to do a WRA.
In the meantime we'll enjoy the pics on the Forum.
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