The 2006 /7 seedlist

[admin]

The 2006 /7 seedlist is now on the main web site as a pdf file

http://www.srgc.org.uk/seed/seedlist.pdf

[David Pilling]

Hi,

Is it permissable to send a copy of the application form? For me the easy thing is to scan the application form into my DTP program, overlay text frames on the boxes to fill in, and then print the whole lot out, giving a neat result.

But I notice the back of the form has some sort of grid device printed on it. Can't guarantee getting that in precisely the right place.

[Maggi Young]

David, has your paper copy not arrived yet?
Unless, and until, we get online seed ordering, the seedlist is primarily online to let folks see what could be available to them, as members, and to let those of us who lose our paper copy, before the seed arrives, check what it is we have got!
I will check with "them as knows" these things and let you know if there is an easy remedy.

[Maggi Young]

Hi. David, Sorry for delay, got distracted by a phone call! Those grids on the reverse of the application pages are merely there to stop you writing anything important in that space, because the corresponding space on the front of those pages is where your name and address will be written and cut out to be used to stick on your seed envelope when it is sent to you. So, easy solution after all!
Cheers,
Maggi

[David Pilling]

Many thanks for the replies.

Yes I have my paper copy of the seedlist - I see that I've posted to the wrong thread, causing confusion.

Reading it made me think of another question. Why do some plants get repeated names e.g.

cyclamen coum coum coum

or clematis montana montana

what does the reptition signify?

[Maggi Young]

Hi, David, It was I who became confused! I thought you did not have the paper copy and thus wanted to print out a version... not realising that you meant to scan/photograph the pages  to make neat and legible job of filling in form before printig it off.

As to the repetition, Clematis montana montana refers to Clematis montana ssp.montana,   but I am at a loss to explain the other multiples.... unless they mean similar things, xxxx ssp.  yyyy var. yyy etc.
 I have asked Stuart Pawley to let us know!

[Ian Y]

Hi David
Maggi is correct in what she says above.
When a species, such as Cyclamen coum, is further split into subspecies then to be taxonomically correct when referring to the type species we should call it Cyclamen coum ssp coum. It gets more confusing when varieties are added then we need Cyclamen coum ssp coum var coum. In that situation Cyclamen coum is an umbrella name for them all and if it is the type species we are referring to then we need Cyclamen coum ssp coum var coum - confused?
It is not strictly necessary and as a gardener I prefer the more descriptive listings of Cyclamen coum silver leaf, etc.

[David Pilling]

Thanks for the explanation. Interesting.

Hopefully coum coum coum is the limit and there is nothing with four repetitions...
 

[Cgull49]

I had posted a message on the old forum regarding my inability to cut and paste the seed list to an excel file which I could then use as a starting point to capture more specific information such as hardiness, height,.... With respect to last year's list the pasted text was undecypherable.  I just wanted to let you know that with the 2006/07 list I was able to cut and paste the information reasonably successfully.  The information in the columns gets a bit mixed up, since the cut pulls the information off row by row but it's less time consuming to format the pasted data than reenter all the text with the added risk of introducing spelling errors.

Thanks for a more useable list.

[Ian Y]

Hello, Rob,,, tell me more, I am not able to cut and paste from a pdf file, I think this is because I only have the Adobe reader, not the full version.  Is this why you can cut and paste ?

[KentGardener]

Hi Ian

you should be able to cut from a PDF even when using just the reader.  It is highlighting the test that is the different step and often leads users to believe it is not possible.

You should find an icon on the toolbar called "select" - this has an 'I' with a little triangle next to it.  Click this icon and then use your mouse to select the parts of the PDF you want to copy and then follow your usual method (CTRL+C, CTRL+V).

Hope this works for you (if not, try downloading a newer version of adobe acrobat from their website).

regards

John

[Cgull49]

Ian,

John's got it right for adbode v7.  I think in the older versions there is a dotted box with a T in it that you select, then highlight the text you want to copy.  Use the CTL-C to copy, the CTL-V to paste.  It worked that way on version at least as far back as v5 that I can remember and that's just with the reader.

[Maggi Young]

Thanks, chaps, I have been having a look-see and I find your are quite correct. On left-clicking and holding down, on the T tool, a drop down box appears which offers choice of text/ colum/ or graphic selection. Can't imagine how we never found this before! Good that we old dogs can learn new tricks, though, isn't it!!

[KentGardener]

Hi Maggi

glad we could help.  What use is knowledge if it isn't shared.

John

[mark smyth]

Now for a first from me. There are some items in the seed list I would like to try. How do I get the paper list and go about ordering?