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Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« on: December 03, 2009, 06:07:58 PM »
I received the attached pics from a friend who visited Cyprus a week ago.
The plants were seen near Paphos.
I would be glad if anyone is able to identify these small bulbs.

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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 06:24:12 PM »
Gerd

maybe a Scilla ?

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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 10:43:57 AM »
The bulbs remind me of a small hyacinth?  So perhaps somewhere in their relations?
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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 12:09:16 PM »
Gerd,
Your bulb looks very much to me like Scilla morrisii, its endemic to Cyprus. I have grown it for several years and it does very well in pots.

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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 05:43:10 PM »
Hans, Paul & Melvyn - Thanks for trying to identificate the plant.

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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 05:48:14 PM »
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I agree with Melvyn and Hans, Scilla morrisii.
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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 07:27:58 PM »
That's truly amazing that you can identify the bulb from a picture without a flower.  Hats off to you all.  Isn't this site wonderful?
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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 02:39:14 AM »
Nice one! :D
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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 09:21:53 AM »
maybe it is not Scilla morrisii but allium cowanii as far as I know grows Scilla morrisii not near Paphos
knowing from only a few locations but the flower will tell us later but if the old bulbskin is crusty it is Allium

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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 01:10:38 PM »
maybe it is not Scilla morrisii but allium cowanii as far as I know grows Scilla morrisii not near Paphos
knowing from only a few locations but the flower will tell us later but if the old bulbskin is crusty it is Allium

Roland

Looks like an Allium to me too...possibly A. neapolitanum or one of several allied "Molium" Allium species, having ovoid bulbs with membranous to chartaceous bulb coats.  But without a flower, it'll be tough to be sure of even the genus.
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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2010, 06:52:18 PM »
At least the mystery plant from Cyprus flowered (opened today) - and turned out to be an Allium - as suggested by some forumists.
I would be glad if someone will tell me what species it is.

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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2010, 08:53:55 PM »
Mayby Allium subhirsutum....

Are the leaves with hairs ?
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Re: Unknown bulb from Cyprus
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2010, 08:59:11 PM »
Not much like a Scilla, then!  :-X

I think Roland and McMark have got it right with Allium cowanii syn . neapolitanum. (actually, A. neapolitanum syn. "cowanii"  says  McMark)
.... those leaves don't  look at all hairy to me..... pix I have seen of A. subhirsutum have quite visibly hirsute foliage.
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