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Pete Clarke

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« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2009, 11:26:15 PM »
Gerd - It is in a pot but grown outside but under a roof cover. I havn't tried it in the open ground.
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« Reply #136 on: March 11, 2009, 09:54:18 AM »
Quote from: ashley on March 10, 2009, 10:46:09 PM
Wonderful plants everyone.  Interesting David that your fernandesii looks more slender than mine.

Yes, mine does look a lot more slender than yours. ???
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« Reply #137 on: March 11, 2009, 02:13:36 PM »
That there are varying forms of fernandesii will not surprise anyone who has read Ben Zonneveld's paper The systematic value of nuclear DNA content for all species of Narcissus L. (Amaryllidaceae) which can be viewed here:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/31v686343n0615t6/fulltext.pdf

This is not the appropriate forum to discuss such a complicated subject, but as I read this paper our little friend "Narcissus fernandesii" is not always what she seems.



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« Reply #138 on: March 11, 2009, 03:34:11 PM »
Thanks for the reference Jim.  Undoubtedly N. fernandesii & N. 'fernandesii' comprise a complex complex  ??? :-\ ;)
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« Reply #139 on: March 11, 2009, 04:07:37 PM »
Flowering outside through the recent snow- Narcissus bulbocodium x romieuxii
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« Reply #140 on: March 11, 2009, 04:10:04 PM »
Quote from: Jim McKenney on March 11, 2009, 02:13:36 PM
That there are varying forms of fernandesii will not surprise anyone who has read Ben Zonneveld's paper The systematic value of nuclear DNA content for all species of Narcissus L. (Amaryllidaceae) which can be viewed here:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/31v686343n0615t6/fulltext.pdf
Jim - many thanks for the reference. It's very interesting. I suspect that the genus will  provide material for PhDs for many years to come (finances permitting).
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Pete Clarke

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« Reply #141 on: March 11, 2009, 05:53:10 PM »
I think watieri automatically self pollinates.


Anne - your thoughts would seem right to me. Another pot of seedlings, watierii x bulbocodium, has just opened & they all look like waterii again.
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« Reply #142 on: March 11, 2009, 06:54:08 PM »
2 Narcissus from me,
Narcissus calcicola,
Narcissus bulbocodium RRW88-36
« Last Edit: March 11, 2009, 08:21:10 PM by Maggi Young »
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« Reply #143 on: March 11, 2009, 07:00:51 PM »
These are two pretty daffs!

Derek, is there some more information about the collecting no RRW 88-36?

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« Reply #144 on: March 11, 2009, 07:22:51 PM »
Quote from: ashley on March 11, 2009, 03:34:11 PM
Thanks for the reference Jim.  Undoubtedly N. fernandesii & N. 'fernandesii' comprise a complex complex  ??? :-\ ;)

Too complex for me anyway. I managed to get through the first couple of paragraphs without understanding much of it ;D
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David Nicholson
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« Reply #145 on: March 11, 2009, 08:05:18 PM »
Quote from: Gerdk on March 11, 2009, 07:00:51 PM
These are two pretty daffs!
Derek, is there some more information about the collecting no RRW 88-36?
Gerd
I agree with Gerd that the bulbocodium from Bob & Rannveig Wallis  is very attractive. It looks rather like the 'Moulay Brahim' form of N. bulbocodium subsp. praecox which has been posted two or three times recently.
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« Reply #146 on: March 12, 2009, 10:40:42 AM »
from Bob and Rannveig Wallis' last catalogue:-

"RRW8836-Narcissus bulbocodium Oukaimedon, High Atlas 2800m. Another of the spectacular Moroccan bulbocodiums with large flaring lemon yellow trumpets"
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« Reply #147 on: March 12, 2009, 02:56:00 PM »
Narcissus jonquilla blooming since one week in the greenhouse
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« Reply #148 on: March 12, 2009, 03:13:53 PM »
Quote from: derekb on March 11, 2009, 06:54:08 PM
2 Narcissus from me,
Narcissus calcicola,
Narcissus bulbocodium RRW88-36


I must have done something wrong, because after one season I lost all my Narcissus calcicola. :'(
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« Reply #149 on: March 12, 2009, 03:22:58 PM »
Quote from: Anthony Darby on March 12, 2009, 03:13:53 PM


I must have done something wrong, because after one season I lost all my Narcissus calcicola. :'(
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I have exactly the same problem Anthony - purchased from MB and planted in 2007 - flowered ok in 2008 - no sign of them in 2009... :'(
And the same goes for N. rupicola  :'(
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