Narcissus March 2009 -

[annew]

I can smell it from here - mmm.

[ian mcenery]

Lots of narcissus opening now - first a watieri x rupicola marvieri cross (flowers about 1.75cm across), then N. hispanicus 'Patrick Synge', which I struggle to keep going. Finally a tiny N bulbocodium nivalis Briganza form from Brian Duncan - the flowers are only 1cm across maximum.

Great selection Anne particularly like the pleated flowers of the bulbicodium 

[Oron Peri]

Can some one help with the ID of this species.
It is another victim of the Black birds that enjoy throwing out the labels.
It was sown a few years ago and first time in flower.

Oron I was just writing this when Fred beat me to it but I would agree with Narcissus bulbocodium as well.
Difficult to put a supsp. on it but subsp. conspicuus is a possibility.

Ian, Gerry and Fred, Thank you for the ID.
oron

[Brian Duncan]

Lots of narcissus opening now - first a watieri x rupicola marvieri cross (flowers about 1.75cm across), then N. hispanicus 'Patrick Synge', which I struggle to keep going. Finally a tiny N bulbocodium nivalis Briganza form from Brian Duncan -

 

Anne,
Nice N. watieri x N. rupicola marvieri seedling.  I do not have the latter form of rupicola but I have made ths the cross with straight rupicola. Do you find they are mostly 'lookalikes' in an intermediate creamy/lemon colour, which many find most attractive.
Incidentally the little N. bulbo. nivalis seedling hails from BRAGANCA, there is a squiggle (someone will know the correct name for it) under the c that I think makes it sound a bit like like 'Braganza'. In labelling the z was probably my phonetic spelling mistake and I suspect you have substituted i for a. See map of North Portugal. I think it is best to put such names, which simply indicate origin, in brackets - to avoid possible confusion with named and registered clones.
If Ian reads this I can now say that crosses between N. asturiensis and N. cyclamineus X the white trumpets 'Cndlepower' and 'Camborne' result in about 50 % each of Yellow and White perianths, some are bicolours but few if any are intermediate in colour like in the Apodanthe cross mentioned above.
 Brian

[Brian Duncan]

Narcissus marvieri or maybe rupicola marvieri.

How does N. rupicola marvieri differ from straight N. rupicola? In this picture it seems to have a deeper more bowl shaped corona and is deeper yellow.?

[Anthony Darby]

I can't download that pic Brian.

[Gerdk]

The daffs are coming - slowly, slowly here

1. Narcissus cantabricus from Madrid - maybe the most northern occurence
 - a gift from Rafa
2. the same plant
3.+ 4. Narcissus x susannae (after x munozii-garmandiae the second name,
  there is also a newer one)

Gerd

[Maggi Young]

Such beauty is always worth the wait and these are very beautiful indeed 

[Mark Griffiths]

How does N. mavieri differ from N. rupicola? Blanchard says N. marvieri is supposed to be larger all over with green leaves and deeper colur flowers and then goes on to say that he has plants with more glaucous leaves, he has seen larger and deeper flowered N. rupicola..so it seems they overlap in appearence. These were from Buried Treasure I think so I would expect them to be correctly named.

Narcissus romieuxxii rifanus? grown from AGS seed. This seems one of the few Narcissus I can keep, which is nice but I'd like to grow some of the others successfully.

Narcissus watieri. This was a nice suprise. I bought one in flower 30 years ago and since got seed, bought bulbs, never another flower and all quickly died. This one is form seed! AGS seed to boot!! 

[David Nicholson]

Lovely Narcissus Gerd and Mark. I have to say that after my own meagre attempts with Narcissus this year I'm totally hooked.

[annew]

Anne,
Nice N. watieri x N. rupicola marvieri seedling.  I do not have the latter form of rupicola but I have made ths the cross with straight rupicola. Do you find they are mostly 'lookalikes' in an intermediate creamy/lemon colour, which many find most attractive.
Incidentally the little N. bulbo. nivalis seedling hails from BRAGANCA, there is a squiggle (someone will know the correct name for it) under the c that I think makes it sound a bit like like 'Braganza'. In labelling the z was probably my phonetic spelling mistake and I suspect you have substituted i for a. See map of North Portugal. I think it is best to put such names, which simply indicate origin, in brackets - to avoid possible confusion with named and registered clones.
If Ian reads this I can now say that crosses between N. asturiensis and N. cyclamineus X the white trumpets 'Cndlepower' and 'Camborne' result in about 50 % each of Yellow and White perianths, some are bicolours but few if any are intermediate in colour like in the Apodanthe cross mentioned above.
 Brian

Noted, Brian! Yes the wat x rup hybrids are all pretty similar. The marvieri I had, correct or not, were slightly larger than rupicola and the corona wider and flatter. I can't open the luteolentus photo either, but I do have your plant in flower now. I also have one from Buried Treasure which looks completely different. I'll try and get photos tomorrow.

[Anthony Darby]

Here is Narcissus cantabricus from Rafa. I think it is the purest, perfect little white narcissus I have ever seen. I love it. Another wee gem is Narcissus 'Jim Lad', a name I have often used for our son James.

[Maggi Young]

Two good 'uns there, Anthony. 
The cantabricus is perfectly formed and who could believe that pristine crystalline white?

'Jim Lad' is so cute ..... Anne, you are a fine "Mum"   

[Rafa]

I'm glad to see the good result of these N. cantabricus.

Tony!!, some pictures from yesterday afternoon in Vitoria in 100 meters far they were N. jacetanus, but absolutely covered by snow...

[Armin]

Rafa,
pictures look a bit sad to me. All the hanging flower heads.
I hope the snow will melt tomorrow.