Narcissus September - December 2009

[Paul T]

So how is it different to the poeticus plena that is around, or is yours actually the correct name for that one?

[Kees Green]

Hi
Here are my new pics of the daffs that have emerged since last time.
Whitesail is the double poet, then there is bell song, miniature poet, double headed white /yellow standard, tenufoliosus, standard white orange red-very bright, triandus alba x 2 and a pic of some different triandus hybrids.
The triandus hybrids look very similar but the is one with a slightly paler cup and this had the stigma extended past the cup while the others had to be dissected to be crossed with different petticoats and bell song.

[galahad]

Might be a question for Bill

[Ragged Robin]

Kees, more of your Narcissus to lift the spirits - can only explain the feeling with the "Ahhhhhhh....Narcissus!" instead of "Ahhhhhhh.....Bisto!" but said with the same meaning of pure delight 

[Mini-daffs]

 
Hi
A photo of a colourful poeticus hybrid. The deep red cup is something else again.
Kees, modern standard doubles have powerful genes for doubling so while there is a chance of a single most of the flowers will be doubles. Only the finest doubles end up being marketed so there is a lot of rejects. The other thing is that even if you got a single it would not be of the quality of a single being bred as a single. When breeding doubles, particularly giant ones, you need to breed for stems capable of holding them up. They are very heavy and even heavier after rain so you need a tree trunk style stem. Such stems are not seen as desirable on exhibition singles.

[Paul T]

Graham,

That white triandrus hybrid is stunning.  So delicate, and such clean lines..... even with the red dust remains that cover everything here at the moment after the dust storms last week.     The red dust really doesn't want to come off either, does it.    Very nice flower, regardless.

[Hans A.]

Thanks a lot for all the comments. Fred and Miriam, hope you will have rain soon (and sun for me  )
One feature of this plant is the flower starts yellow but becomes nearly white with the time. First time I recognized the plant can have two flowers per stalk.
Here some more pictures of this daffodils.

[Maggi Young]

Superb, Hans!

[Oron Peri]

Thanks Fred - mine looks very similar to yours, but here in Mallorca (not to far away from Corsica ) grows a different looking N. elegans - which until now I only have seen on photos: http://herbarivirtual.uib.es/eng-med/especie/4909.html

Hans
That's an amazing form of N. elegans, thanks for sharing this information.
Interestingly in pic. No. 2 it has a similar form to N. virdiflorus.
Is Mallorca that big?...
 fantastic photo of perezlarae!!

[Lesley Cox]

Oddly, for me, I do like the double white poeticus hybrids.Very Gardenia-like and if they're scented as well....

Kees, if you can drop in to the Market some time soon? I never meant for you to pay for those last two as they were rather scruffy and had had to be weeded considerably so you'll get weed seedlings coming again. But having missed you that day, I couldn't say so.

Cheers

[Kees Green]

Thanks Lesley
I will come down and see you but I really dont mind paying for them and I am really greatful for getting them from you. I will see how quickly White sail multiplies and see if I can get you a bulb next season if you would like one but it might not flower the first year, I have already promised someone one.

After my last post I see that Whitesail is only fertile by seed, guess I will still cross it with the miniature poet anyway. I will try to self pollinate the miniature poet.

Graham that really does look like an intense cup on the poet hybrid, very nice.

[vanozzi]

G'day Paul T....you wrote...
''Paul, is it possible that your Melbourne weather is what stops your green double opening?  Have you tried it in a warmer spring climate to see whether it opens or not?  I like quirky ones like that..''

I'm glad you asked about my green double min. poet as that motivated me to evaluate it further, so I picked it just now and dissected it.The bloom is over two weeks in age.
It has a total of 30 petals, the outer segments strongly concave, the inner mostly acute.
No ovary or stigma present, but three well formed stamens were observed, consisting of both filament and anther.These were independent (not fused) of the petals.One anther had quite visible (dry) pollen.
The plant may very well be pollen fertile.It first flowered the year I left Tasmania (2007) and this is it's first flowering in Victoria.I would guess its form is stable from the point of view more warmth maynot cause the bloom to open more fully.

The average Sept min and max in Tassie where I lived is 4.4c and 14.7c respectively.
The average Sept min and max in Cranbourne, Victoria where I now live is 8.4c and 17.3c respectively.So it has had a reasonable temp change.

I only kept it as a novelty, but now after its dissection,what's left of the pollen is already in the freezer and it looks as though I will have to resume hybridising.

So, once again, thanks for asking Paul!!

[Anthony Darby]

Lovely pics. That hybrid is so different!

If any of you want rain, come and see me as I have too much. 

[Ragged Robin]

Lovely photos of this autumn flowering daffodil in situ - the flowers and stems look wonderful against the chunky rocks, Hans

[Hans A.]

Thanks to all.

Oron, Mallorca is really huge - but my new boots might make it a bit smaller
Robin, thanks a lot - not sure, but think exsitu would fit better (garden)