Narcissus September - December 2009

[Michael J Campbell]

David, my Narcissus labelled as romieuxii var. mesatlanticus is white,got it from RW of BT  a few years ago. I have bred some nice white hybs from it.

[Rafa]

Very interesting plants! Gerd your onange forms of N. miniatus are wonderful

[BULBISSIME]

Waoooo ! rafa, what ........ a blue sky 

really nice plants !
Do you get seeds from N. viridiflorus ?

[Rafa]

Hello Fred,

I will tr to get seeds of this species from wild collection, but I'm not sure if this plant produce seeds, if so I will send you some.

[BULBISSIME]

I also will try some hand pollinating with mine.....

[Rafa]

maybe we could exchange pollen?

[BULBISSIME]

Why not ?
do you have several clones ?
I should have 3 different ones but i wonder if the pollen is big enough to be send easily by post

[dominique]

Rafa and Fred, mine is open to day. Pic to morrow if sun. Only one clone, one flower

[Gerdk]

Very interesting plants! Gerd your onange forms of N. miniatus are wonderful

Thank you Rafa, but Narcissus viridiflorus is superior. I can't tell why - but this ancient daffodil  fascinates me most - maybe because of the strange glistening of the petals when a sunray reached them.

Gerd

[David Nicholson]

David, my Narcissus labelled as romieuxii var. mesatlanticus is white,got it from RW of BT  a few years ago. I have bred some nice white hybs from it.

Hi Michael,

I do wonder if really we both have a hybrid? John Blanchard says "..... Mesatlanticus as distributed in commerce is a pale yellow form which is well within the limits of variation of var. romieuxii, so unless it can be shown that wild plants are distinct, I would not think it is a name which should be perpetuated and it is not included in Fernanes's Keys...."

Whatever it is it's still very pretty.

[Michael J Campbell]

David,see the bulb log here,Ian has the white form.


http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2004/171104/log.html

And here is a yellow form.

http://www.blomhoej.dk/haven2/i-p/1080/index.htm

and the pacific bulb society,

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/NarcissusSpeciesTwo

I am confused,

[David Nicholson]

Michael, I'm not confused by being confused, it's a state I'm well used to.

Interesting pics on Ian's Log, 47-2004, and I see he feels that mesatlanticus is a cross between Narcissus romieuxii and N. cantabricus foliosus. John Lonsdale's clone looks very much like ours. I wonder if any Forumists have a yellow clone?

[Lesley Cox]

Mine under that name is pale yellow, about the colour of 'Julia Jane.'

[David Nicholson]

Yours may well be the real thing Lesley.

[Maggi Young]

I believe that N. rom. meastlanticus is another one of these muddled plants... Ian thinks it is likely a hybrid. All of ours, from whatever source, seed or otherwise are that nice "just off" white.   Never seen a really yellow one!