Narcissus September - December 2009

[Maggi Young]

Ah, Lesley, Knud has been registered as a Forumist for some time, but was playing hard to get!

[krisderaeymaeker]

Also in Belgium the romieuxii's start to flower Knud.November for me looks a bit like early spring...
Two weeks ago we went to Cyprus.When we get out the bus at our hotel allready some papyraceus wait for us in the garden of the hotel.Later on we find a lot of serotinus in the wild on several occassions.Back home the romieuxii allready starts to flower.So november was good for daffodils.
The pictures start with papyraceus en go further with serotinus and romieuxii

Kris     

[Paul T]

Rafa,

The pics of them flowering in the holes in the cliff are amazing. 

[Luc Gilgemyn]

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Well done everyone !!
Rafa - your pix from the wild are stunning !  So it's not only N. cantabricus that can be pristine white then.. 

Knud,
Welcome into the open of the forum !!!
Worrying for climate change though if even Norway has Narcissus in late November... 

Kris,
Lovely Narcissus - I have N. cantabricus foliosus florwering at the moment, but that's about it... many others in bud though !! 

[dominique]

Rafa
So nice white perfumed Narcissus in the wild !!! What is the difference between papyraceus and polyanthos ? Thanks
Dom

[Rafa]

basicly is the number of flowers, arround 13 flowers in the plants I pictured. I will try to collect seeds in few months.

[Sinchets]

The rest of the Narcissus I am growing as N.cantabricus are flowering now. I would be interested to hear if this is the correct name for them. According to my records some are seedlings from the original bulbs I purchased.

[Ian Y]

Simon, from what I can see in the picture they would appear to be Narcissus cantabricus foliosus.
Indicators are  - short pedicel and many leaves.
They are lovely.

[Gerry Webster]

Really attractive Simon. I agree with Ian regarding identity which is easy to confirm since N. cantabricus foliosus is the only form of N. cantabricus which has a pedicel.

[Sinchets]

Thank you both. Label pending correction 

[Regelian]

Simon,  wonderful flowers.  My N. cantabricus don't even show buds!  I still haven't got the hang of them.

Good to know the difference in the subspecies foliosus.  Thanks, Ian, Gerry.

[Sinchets]

They are not normally this early here- the last few years I have had to content myself with looking at them through a hole in the snow on top of the cover over the bed they are in and this is usually around Christmas/ New Year time.

[Gerdk]

They are not normally this early here- the last few years I have had to content myself with looking at them through a hole in the snow on top of the cover over the bed they are in and this is usually around Christmas/ New Year time.

Simon,
Only cover and snow or additional soil heating cable?
My Narcissus cantabricus disappeared after I left them outside in winter (without cover however).

Gerd

[Ian Y]

The other major feature of Narcissus cantabricus foliosus is that it flowers this early.

Our other forms of Narcissus cantabricus are not even showing yet and most do not normally flower until February or March.

On the issue of hardiness of this group of Narcissus - it is my experience in our garden that the top growth recovers unaffected after freeing conditions but if the ground around the bulb freezes for any length of time the bulb dies. This is also the case for the Narcissus bulbs in the bulb house and is the main reason that I have a warming cable to protect against prolonged freezing of the plunge and compost.

[Sinchets]

Gerd, there is no such thing as soil heating cable here and the beds are too far from the house.  
They are covered with plastic in summer and winter and have so far had snow insulation for the coldest parts of winter. I haven't had these ones out in the main garden yet as I am bulking their numbers back up. I intend to put some bulbs out next summer to see what happens here, for example when they will flower if we have early and long snows.