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Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« on: December 07, 2009, 01:52:58 PM »
Hello - can anybody give me a name to this plant, flowering in Liguria/Italy in the beginning
of April on 1200m altitude?

Sorry, posted this two times by mistake - Maggi could you please delete this one?
Wasn't there a "delete"-button in the posts long time ago?
« Last Edit: December 07, 2009, 02:00:44 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 01:57:01 PM »
Yes, Thomas, there was such a button... I will remove it for you.  ;)


 I think the yellow Dentaria is Dentaria enneaphylla
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 02:04:43 PM »
Or it could be Cardamine (Dentaria) kitaibelii.
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 02:29:50 PM »
Simon, since you mention it, I believe that Dentaria enneaphylla may now be referred to as Cardamine enneaphylla  :-\

We're back to the "plants don't read the maps" scenario.... isn't Cardamine (Dentaria) kitaibelii from Croatia......how far a leap is that to Liguria?  ???

 Geography is certainly not my strong point! :-[
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 02:53:15 PM »
Thanks Maggi for deleting my mistake.
After having a look into the Flora Italia I found that both (Cardamine kitaibelii and elleaphyllos)   
     -    http://luirig.altervista.org/schedeit/ae/cardamine_enneaphyllos.htm    -
occour in Liguria, but from the photos I googled I think that Simon is right, because kitaibelii
has finer leaves like my plant has, while the leaves of enneaphyllos are much broader.
Thanks Simon - hope to see the plant again next April.
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 03:10:59 PM »
Yes, I see that the leaves are more narrow.
Mr Kitaibel actually described several  Cardamine/Dentarias, I think.... small world, isn't it?   ;)
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 03:38:34 PM »
My pleasure. There are some lovely members of the genus- great for ground cover in the woodland garden  :)
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 03:47:05 PM »
Simon, if you want I could try to collect some seed next year for your help.
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 08:53:05 PM »
Aha!!! So Thomas has lost his "Remove" button too. Perhaps we all have? ???

The yellow Dentaria is a beauty. :)
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Re: Unknown plant from Italy- cruciferae?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 09:13:15 PM »
Quote from: Lesley Cox on December 07, 2009, 08:53:05 PM
Aha!!! So Thomas has lost his "Remove" button too. Perhaps we all have? ???

The yellow Dentaria is a beauty. :)

 Yes, Lesley, I think  the Remove button waslost with a Forum upgrade ..... I still have it in my moderator's capacity. ;) :-X
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