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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #90 on: December 18, 2009, 03:20:30 PM »
Ron and Joan, a very welcome to the Forum from Holland.
Now that you've made it up here at last  ;D, I am hopeful to see many more comments and pictures.

Ian and I join with Luit in that hope. :)

It is terrific to have Ron and Joan joining us here......two more wonderful gardeners from whom there is much to learn!

These are super photos, showing just how natural the finished process can... and should.... appear.
How happy are those plants, nestling in their crevice homes? Their perfect growth, curving over the stones shows the reasoning for all the prior effort to make them these homes!
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2009, 06:08:43 PM »
Ron and Joan a very warm welcome from me to. Glad you have taken the plunge ;)
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #92 on: December 18, 2009, 08:37:03 PM »
CREVICE GARDEN IN A HAT
We must stress that Mother Nature has better ideas than human
designers.
 Mother Nature sometimes designs quite interesting construction for forming our ideas. This one is made from vertically cracked basalt and has local name Hat Rock. The idea is that you can go round your outcrop, which has all possible aspects for different taste of plants. If you follow the Nature, do not construct it so high.
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #93 on: December 18, 2009, 09:06:33 PM »
It has given me enormous pleasure to see posted images of Zdenek’s latest mind- blowing crevice creations and I am told that the task of planting up his latest example at Bangsbo Botanic Garden is a 2-year project. Pictures give a good idea of the forces employed in what is only the first stage leaving planting and infill or topdressing in the hands of the delighted (or awestruck) beneficiary.
It has been my good fortune to visit the Czech Republic on several occasions and to see unbelievable work by a growers who were pioneers in the work. I mention only two:
(First two images)
Ota Vlasek makes beautiful use of granite and the first two images try to illustrate the vertical stratification in relatively small outcrops. Perfectly matching  “rotten granite” packed into crevices and for the topdressing give a perfectly natural look to this very large rock garden. Ota told me he had spent two whole days planting and packing an area of one square metre of the rock face.   I missed badly your juicy comment and top quality photgraphs. Ron. Thenks for your voice. ZZ
(Second pair of images)
Milan Cepicka has filled his relatively small garden with limestone (I would guess about 20 tons) and I will let the camera speak for me. This is a case of art concealing the crevices and I think this man should placed in front of camera so that his skills may be captured as a master class
Returning home Zdenek employed basalt across the Irish Sea and Derbyshire tufa in my own garden (another story) but so far as I know sandstone elsewhere. I am not experienced enough to know of the whereabouts of the considerable amount of the crumbling, splitting sandstone (which Z would describe as flakes) required for filling purposes and the small amount
available from the quarry for the Pershore project was sufficient for only a little over half the task. Enquiries elsewhere were fruitless. I illustrate what we did achieve through the work of an inspired hand but unfortunately I left the scene before investigating alternatives, which included the possibly futile task of the breakdown of larger stone. A more satisfactory plan would probably be to follow Alan Furness’s route with a matching sandstone aggregate although I am waiting to see if the surprising choice of a standard potting grit by the AGS may prove the more satisfactory of all. My opinion is that the unselfish work and craftsmanship of a Czech master deserves in return all the art and skill that can be mustered to ensure that with age it look as if it was a natural creation.

One English volunteer perfectly closed crevices with hammering flakes in Pershore but only in small section. Ron is very good in photgraphing!
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #94 on: December 19, 2009, 10:54:43 PM »
A very warm welcome from southern rock gardeners too, Mr and Mrs B.  I remember with great pleasure the one visit to your Pershore nursery, in 1993 and am happy to say I still have most of the plants I was able to bring home with me at that time. Since then, the whole process of importing live plants as distinct from seed, has become an impossibility, which makes those from that time, the more precious.

Like the other forumists here, I do hope you will continue to post on the is Fabulous Forum. :)
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #95 on: December 20, 2009, 04:27:15 PM »
A message just in from ZZ.... he was not happy with the scan of an earlier photo showed.....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4656.msg125373#msg125373
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009 : June Dougherty's garden

 so has sent me this one in its stead.......showing the limestone side walls....

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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #96 on: January 02, 2010, 10:25:04 PM »
I would like to add two  photos  illustrating  the unfinished  
work of Jaromír Grulich. He was talented in curving alpines into wood so
many people have decorated their walls with his art. Second picture is
the main cliff which he planted with a help of rope.

Hi Ho  Zdenek
« Last Edit: January 03, 2010, 10:10:19 PM by Stone Rider »
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #97 on: January 02, 2010, 11:42:34 PM »
Second picture is the main cliff which he planted with a help of rope. 

Planted with amazing clumps of lewisias, I remember. 
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #98 on: January 03, 2010, 09:23:57 PM »

Second picture is
the main cliff which he planted with a help of rope.

Hi Ho  Zdenek


And ice axe and crampons? ;D
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #99 on: January 03, 2010, 11:04:23 PM »
 Ref: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4656.msg126294#msg126294

I think that we can show one happy senior rock gardener
with new alpine house and a crevice bed. Austrian plantsman Fritz
Kummert just today send me interesting information about really small
Narcissus together with a cute photograph. My Czech bulletin Skalnicky
will share the pleasure with SRGC Forum and we wiil wish Stefi and Fritz
long lasting happiness.

Here is Fritz' comment on this little Narcissus:
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Narcissus cantabricus DC. ssp. monophyllus

  After information from Spanish Narcissus specialists there are more than one species involved in what is called Narcissus cantabricus. The naming of this species was from the beginning an error, de Candolle’s herbarium-sheet was labelled to hail from “Cantabria”, but no white hoop-petticoat grows in this region!

  Flora Europaea ignores the subspecies monophyllus, which is found at the Puerto de la Virgen and around the Santuario de la Virgen in the Sierra de los Filabres. It is a plant of crystalline rocks; a typical companion plant is Cistus albidus. The soils in which subspecies monophyllus occur is typical very shallow and stony. We saw it on two occasions in full flower: 2000 end of February and 2009 end of March. The small spherical bulbs lie not very deep in the ground and possess in most cases only one thread-like leaf. The sight of thousands and thousands of these glistening white flowers is breath taking!

  After my experience this small narcissus cannot be grown in the open ground, it is a plant for the alpine-house. Propagation takes place by division of the bulbs, which is slowly with some clones, or through seeding. Seed-set in the alpine-house is good after artificial pollination. It lasts at least three years from sowing to the first flower!

     


An Austrian Highland House-with Crevice Garden and Alpine House
Home made alpine house in Rollsdorf
Stefi and Fritz

Narcissus cantabricus ssp. monophyllus
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2010, 12:45:04 AM »
most impressive is the alpine house rising out of the stone! or i suppose, stone rising from alpine house? in any case, nice effect..

and the cliff in the previous message! wow, to have such a feature at home :)

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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #101 on: January 04, 2010, 08:49:45 AM »
and the cliff in the previous message! wow, to have such a feature at home :)


Saves you some tiresome hikes in the mountains doesn't it Cohan.. !  ;D ;D
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #102 on: January 04, 2010, 07:46:17 PM »
I wish you could have seen the rocks in the area where yesterday Roger and I collected some small pieces for my new troughs. It was near Middlemarch, the beginnings of Central Otago and the landscape is typical of many parts, dry, brown and dusty with small to massive rock outcrops almost any one of which, if transported complete, would make an outstanding rock garden at home. Where we were the crevices were layered horizontally rather than upright but in the troughs, I'll try the upright kind. The rock itself is schist and tending toward being quite rotten with flaking even at a touch sometimes. I brought home pieces that are approx 30cms long in the main but as I unloaded them, I was sometimes left with slivers in my hand, a bare millimetre or two in width. I can use these to put between larger pieces and so make the crevices narrower.

I'd have taken more pictures but the wind was so gusty we could barely stand and poor Teddy was bowled over and blown along at one stage. When we went into Middlemarch to get some coffee we saw an elderly woman swept from her feet and crashing into a fence. A terrible day with frequent short bursts of driving rain and hail as well. The drive there and home again was quite frightening with Roger barely able to hold the car on the road sometimes.
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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #103 on: January 10, 2010, 04:21:37 AM »
and the cliff in the previous message! wow, to have such a feature at home :)
Saves you some tiresome hikes in the mountains doesn't it Cohan.. !  ;D ;D

haha--more to the point, i wouldnt have to pay to bring stone in, and wouldnt have to move it around!
lesley, that's some fierce wind! good you were able to stay on the road!

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Re: Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock.....
« Reply #104 on: January 20, 2010, 11:40:02 AM »
Plenty of rock here, just a transportation problem  :D

I love the idea of incorporating the alpine house into a rockery - often glass house buildings themselves are so stark from outside and this one will blend in with the surrounding landscape - I look forward to seeing more of how this venture develops....
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