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Tony Willis

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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #450 on: January 28, 2010, 11:22:37 PM »
Melvyn thanks for that comment which is interestingas you have seen them in situ. The book 'galanthus' has a picture of elwesii on Vermion and there are several sites on the mountain and so perhaps both grow there and there are also hybrids.

Here are two pictures I took last year of the base of the shoots which may help
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #451 on: January 29, 2010, 12:45:44 AM »
a couple of  ordinary unamed Galanthus elwesii out today

Tony whatever these are they are without doubt  very elegant  8) 8)
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #452 on: January 29, 2010, 01:37:06 AM »
Melvyn thanks for that comment which is interestingas you have seen them in situ. The book 'galanthus' has a picture of elwesii on Vermion and there are several sites on the mountain and so perhaps both grow there and there are also hybrids.

Here are two pictures I took last year of the base of the shoots which may help

Some of the leaf bases look like elwesii (convolute) and some like gracilis (applanate).
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #453 on: January 29, 2010, 09:58:38 AM »
reply 438 page 30 ( previous page)
elwesii Sir Edward Elgar - sorry it's wrong. They were bought from Linnet Farm
« Last Edit: January 29, 2010, 10:52:58 AM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #454 on: January 29, 2010, 11:36:02 AM »
A lovely lot Tony. You'll have to grow seed of them to see what surfaces in round two.

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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #455 on: January 29, 2010, 05:15:40 PM »
Tony they are quite beautiful plants of elwesii, very distinctive and pristine looking like all of your plants!
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #456 on: January 30, 2010, 06:18:30 AM »
Another day photographing in my favourite snowdrop place.
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #457 on: January 30, 2010, 08:52:17 AM »
Diane,

What remarkably long petals. Well named!

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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #458 on: January 30, 2010, 11:06:59 AM »
No they are not the same clone. Melvyn has seen some of these plants in the wild so he may have a comment on them.

Then they're very consistent in their marking and hopefully should come fairly true from seed, if they set seed. They look very strong too. Really nice to see them. If Melvyn has more info on this population, I'd love to hear it.
I have found that I have just three images of the Galanthus site that I visited on Mt Vermion.
Photo 1 is a habitat shot. As Tony mentioned there are more sites on Mt Vermon so this habitat may not be typical.
The second is a typical plant, whilst there were many plants at this location they were all growing as singles. As previously mentioned I visited the site in late April and the seed pods were well developed.
Photo three shows the only variegated plant that I have seen in the wild.
In my next post I will show close ups of the seedlings grown from this site.

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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #459 on: January 30, 2010, 11:15:09 AM »
anyone growing galanthus Irish Green?
I bought it last summer but no sign of it yet and I like the weird ones very much! needless to tell I got a very good bulb.
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #460 on: January 30, 2010, 11:22:27 AM »
The first nine images are seedlings from the Mt Vermion site. I am not sure that the leaf pictures are going to help determine the species involved but the flowers seem to be consistent in the way the innner segments flair out. My inclination is to stick with G.gracilis. Is it not reasonable to accept that G.gracilis has a variable leaf rather than suggest hybridisation with G.elwesii?
The final photo is a plant I purchased in a group pot with four others at Wisley yesterday, there were many on offer all labelled G.elwesii but such a variable selection, some could easily have been described as G.gracilis.

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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #461 on: January 30, 2010, 11:51:04 AM »
Melvyn

Hope they have more of No. 10 when I visit next Saturday for the Cyclamen Show.  :) :) :)
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #462 on: January 30, 2010, 12:25:58 PM »
Please forgive the ignorance- but are these G.gracilis the same plants as G.graecus and G.elwesii minor?
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #463 on: January 30, 2010, 01:09:14 PM »
I like the variegated gracilis
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Re: Galanthus winter 2009/2010
« Reply #464 on: January 30, 2010, 01:24:37 PM »
The variegated galanthus in pic Galgra3 in post 458 above looks to me not only to be variegated but also to have twists in the leaves suggestive of disease or disorder!
I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole... too risky for virus in my book  :-X :P
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