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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2014, 11:43:09 PM »
Anyone out there know where I can find Salix aegyptiaca.  Know as the musk willow from Iran.
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #91 on: January 31, 2014, 12:11:19 AM »
I'll have to see if I can't arrange a cutting of S. hylematica for you, Susann.
We call the little finger  the "pinky"  the third finger is the "ring" finger - I don't think we have anmae for the middle finger- apart from "middle" finger! Funny thing, language!
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #92 on: January 31, 2014, 02:49:25 AM »
Looks like Salix hylematica

Yes the one we called Salix serpyllifolium for years but Juri has posted a pic of a serpyllifolium that looks nothing like this hylematica.  I had assumed serp was renamed hylematica??????

Ru  - you will surely find some exquisite dwarf Salix near Lake Baikal and dwarf rhodos too.

Does anyone grow S. radinostachya from China?  Yunnan I think.
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2014, 03:54:01 AM »
I'll have to see if I can't arrange a cutting of S. hylematica for you, Susann.
We call the little finger  the "pinky"  the third finger is the "ring" finger - I don't think we have anmae for the middle finger- apart from "middle" finger! Funny thing, language!

Maggi, wish I could send you some Salix hylematica.  This coming spring I will be totally overhauling my overgrown weed-infested "Allium garden", a place that includes some other plantings like Salix hylematica; the Salix is way out of control and spreading many meters wide i all directions.  It shall be dug out entirely, and I will engage with a nursery or two to supply bushels of rooted cutting material, and maybe save a piece or two for me to grow in a constricted container.
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2014, 10:37:10 AM »
Maggi, "tusen tack!". I can then perhaps pick it up in April? It would be more than very nice of you.
johw, you wrote-if I understand you correctly-that you though S serphyllifolium  had changed to S hylematica. I grow S serphyllifolium, it is one of my favorites, as are S polaris, S reticulata, S...yes, you now what it is like. A collector likes everything. Anyway, S serphyllifolium has very normal catkins. It least mine. I have it from three different sources, but it can of course be the same clone.
 
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2014, 10:41:26 AM »
No need to worry about sending me your excess, McMark! We have a nice S. hylematica sprawling over  the side of a raised bed - but there's a lot of stone under it so will need to search for an "Irishman's cutting" - ready rooted.

It was Salix lanata that we had to  brutally excavate from the front garden, after it threatened to colonise the whole street.
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2014, 04:34:27 PM »
 Susann  - I think our original hylematica came from Alpenglow Gardens in BC back in the early 70's and it was labelled serpyllifolium.  It was obviously mis-labelled  aserpyllifolium but I had assumed a name change. 

Mark - I think the hardiness issue here with hylematica is when it hangs over the edge of a wall or trough, we lose branches every year, gorwing on the ground it is fine.

The Great Northern Peninsula of Newfoundland is one place every Salixophile should visit.  Two of my favourites from there - reticulata and vestita..................apologies as I have posted these long ago.

johnw - +1.9c and on the way up.
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #97 on: February 01, 2014, 01:09:08 AM »
Mighty fine Salix specimens there John.
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #98 on: February 01, 2014, 02:32:02 AM »
Mighty fine Salix specimens there John.

re: the S. reticulata I picked photos from good = cool summer years here! ;)  That was 2009.

Here's a shot from last June before the worst of the heat struck and after a rampage of cutting-taking.

johnw - +2c @ 22:29
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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #99 on: February 02, 2014, 12:17:01 AM »
re: the S. reticulata I picked photos from good = cool summer years here! ;)  That was 2009.

Here's a shot from last June before the worst of the heat struck and after a rampage of cutting-taking.

johnw - +2c @ 22:29

I hope you caught the ol sod that stole so many cuttings  ;D  Actually, it looks good after a "haircut".
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« Reply #100 on: February 02, 2014, 02:46:10 PM »
johw, I will remember to keep the hylematica so it will not hang over stones ( But it is so beautiful).

I got two very beautiful -new to me- creeping species from Gerben last spring. I feel very ashamed to mention them, as I have forgotten the names of them. One is from Greenland and one from Finland, I think the latter was a hybrid. One of them was, at least. They did very well in the rockeries, both placed facing north. They increased a lot, but of course, I do not know what they thought about this rainy and warm winter. If they are still alive I will post names and pictures in spring, someone might be interested in them.

This one, although big, is one of my favorites. I do not know how long I can keep it alive, though, it is no thappy in my area. S moupinense. I have thrown all the bigger species, as S lanata, artica and nakamurana v yezoalpina, away. They got far too big for my garden. But I have kept this one, and  S helvetica as it was my first one.

this one I got as S x simulatrix. Is it correct? I have seen much bigger growing plants labelled simulatrix.

this one came from a Salix collector labelled as S reticulata ssp nivalis?

I also got a cutting from a lanata hybrid some years ago. Unfortunally it did not make it. It had a very nice history. A Swedish man named Svante Turesson saw a nice plant in the Scandinavian mountains. He did not take any cuttings. But he did not forget the plant, and he went back 40 years later to get cuttings.
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« Reply #101 on: February 02, 2014, 03:42:26 PM »
Susann - You may have no problems with the S. hylematica in your climate.  Here it has gone through the very worst of winters and has never once completely top-killed in a trough.  By June one wonders what the problem was.

I am no willow expert but browsing the internet I wonder if that one is straight S. nivalis.

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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2014, 07:34:30 PM »
Susann mentioned Salix polaris and here is a male and a female plant from Svalbard. The male is more showy in the spring and the female in the fall.

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Re: Salix species ( derived from another thread)
« Reply #103 on: February 04, 2014, 07:38:01 PM »
These tiny willows are most appealing.
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« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2014, 11:09:49 AM »
Hi Maggi, yes thank you, the trip was very memorable! And I remember! Been busy with other things but hope I'm finished in a few days!
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