Cyclamen 2010

[johnw]

YT  - I had the same peltate leaves on a C. purpurascens last year. Unfortunately it wasn't stable.

This year I have been watching 2 flats of hederifolium, seed from a kind Forumist.  It is amazing the variety of first leaves produced.  I had two plants with Sassafras matching mitts, one shaped like a lyre and one shaped like a Sanguinaria.  Most lost these features with the second leaf.

It would be great to get one with a stable peltate leaf like a Nelumbo.

Roma - a spectacular George B.. From seed?

Gail - What a wonderful bed of silvers.

johnw  

[Paul T]

Lovely pics, everyone.  Thanks.  Gorgeous bed of silver heds, and I love the coum ssp albissimum.... makes me want my albissimum seedlings to hurry up.  Seed courtesy of a generous German forumist a year or two ago.  Probably a good thing I can't speed everything up in it's growing from seed.  I already have problems with space, imagine how much more hassle I'd have if everything grew up to maturity from seed in 12 months.    They say anticipation is good...... I'm not exactly sure about that.

Thanks again for the pics.

[YT]

Axel, dank!

John, that's sounds interesting about peltate leaf C. purpurascens and hederifolium. I will keep my eyes on my Nelumbo leaf coum

[Roma]

John, my C.coum alb. G. Bisson  was grown from Cyclamen society seed sown in January 2006.  According to the label 11 seeds were sown and in 2007 there were 3 tubers in the pot.  The flowers are more substantial and on stronger stems than 'Golan Heights' which I find rather floppy.  There's been at least one  green leaf in the pot most of the summer so maybe not being dried off has led to out of season flowering though I have not seen this happen with other forms of coum which may leaf early but do not open flowers till after the new year.

[Guff]

Coum flower

1-2 same flower different angle.

[Mark Griffiths]

try again, my post just got eaten.

Can anyone give me a positive ID on this? Cam to me as C.hederifolium confusum Fotio Peleponnese. It wasn't included in the journal where they gave the ID by collection location

[Melvyn Jope]

Mark, the plant that you have shown, formerly described as Cyclamen hederifolium var confusum, is now named Cyclamen hederifolium ssp crassifolium.  Field work by the Cyclamen Society and scientific work by Reading University has shown that Cyclamen confusum is a new species which comes from the area including Topolia, Sirikari and Polyrinnia in Crete.
Further studies are required to establish the full range and nature of the subspecies that you are growing.

[Mark Griffiths]

Melvyn, that is excellent news. I have another pot of C.confusum from one of the named locations so I've managed to get both that and crassifolium. Plus it seems a very nice plant.

Do you have any info on the hardiness of C. confusum and crassifolium? I have them out in a cold frame but perhaps I shoulkd move them into the greenhouse?

[Melvyn Jope]

Mark, I have Cyclamen confusum outside which survived a few days of -10 but it is up against a fence so a bit sheltered, it flowers and sets seed well. If you have enough to risk it I would certainly try it outside but would now leave it until warmer weather next year before you plant them. I would expect them to be fine in a cold frame. C.hederifolium ssp crassifolium is a bit more of an unknown quantity, I reckon most would be ok planted out but it depends on where they came from and your local conditions, sowing seed of this ssp outside first might be a safer bet, my inclination with a nice plant like the one in your photo would be to give it a bit more care.

[Mark Griffiths]

Thanks Melvyn. It was in the frame with the C.confusum and it was ok there last year (we are close to Benson which was the coldest place in England one night last year) - but I think I'll keep it in the grrenhouse now. Must go and move the confusum too.

[cycnich]

Paid a visit to Tilebarn nursery in Kent on Saturday. A warm welcome from Peter and Elizabeth as usual and I came away with quite a few goodies not only cyclamen but a couple of nice galanthus as well. A few photos of the stock plants and plants for sale.

[Tony Willis]

Pat great to see, it is a truly wonderful collection and as you say always a warm welcome.Pity it is 300 miles each way.

[cycnich]

A long way for you Tony, a lot less for me but I don't go as often as I should. Peter is a gentleman and one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet and I have been lucky to travel with him to Greece on 2 occasions and he is fantastic company. Sadly nothing is forever and I am not sure how much longer the nursery will be there, Peter is now 78 years old and has suffered health problems recently but is still as enthusiastic as ever, all I can say is to anybody reading this is if you get a chance to go there then make the effort you will always be made welcome.

[mark smyth]

I saw this Cyclamen and grabbed it quick. It was labelled as C. hederifolium. It has a few leaves that look like hederifolium but is it?

[cycnich]

Hederifolium yes I would say so but the leaves do look very fleshy so it could well be ssp crassifolium, but a nice leaf form whatever.