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Hans J

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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2010, 11:52:06 AM »
Before some days I saw in a box with seedlings from the last years a pure white flower  :)
My first idea was that this is a pot with seedlings of Cyc. 'Golan Heigths' .....but after better looking I saw that the leaves are different  :o
...when I read the label it was clear :

Cyclamen coum albissimum 'George Bisson' ( seeds ex John Lonsdale )

what a nice surprise !!!
Before some weeks I saw this pics here and read the discussion about wrong named plants ...and now I have the correct plant  ;D ;D ;D ....thank you John !

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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2010, 04:38:40 PM »
The flowers are a different shape to David's too. Very pretty.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2010, 10:23:55 PM »
C. pseudibericum is starting under glass here too but not yet in the garden.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2010, 10:33:48 AM »
Friends, there were some posts relating to cyclamen flowering in 2010 that were still in the 2009 thread... they have been moved here now.

Thanks, Hans, for bringing this to my attention.  :)
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2010, 05:52:22 PM »
About three years ago I was given seed by a friend, Dave Hoskins, who said it was from a selected white form of what is now known in the UK as Russian Coum. This name has generally been used to describe a form of Cyclamen coum with no white mark in the purple blotch at the base of the flower.It was originally grown in the UK by Mike Salmon who had it growing under an apple tree when he lived at Monocot, Cadbury Camp Lane near Bristol. Mike said that wild collected seed from various localities in Transcaucasia was sent to him in the 1960's by a Russian  botanist called Zinaida Artuishenko. It was first noticed to be something different and good by Jim Archibald, he urged Mike to take care of it and get seed to other people. As a result it was passed to a few other growers and is occasionally in Jim Archibalds seed list but is still relatively scarce.
As can be seen from my pot of seedlings it does not come 100% true from seed when open pollinated among other Cyclamen coum. In my view the pink form is as attractive as the white.
I have grown this form before in the 1980's and feel glad to be growing it again, I hope you enjoy seeing it too.

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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2010, 06:46:14 PM »
A truly wonderful sight Melvyn - I love the markings on your potful of rare Russian Coum seedlings, pink and white  :)
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2010, 07:31:42 PM »
Melvyn - Quite a nice elongated nose on the pink one in shot 2.

coum Russian from the CS was not a great germinator here last year.

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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2010, 10:12:33 PM »
Hans, I also have Cyclamen coum albissimum 'George Bisson flowering for the first time. Mine is from Cyclamen Society seed.  It is a much stronger plant than 'Golan Heights' which I find is a bit straggly with smaller flowers.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2010, 09:55:53 PM »
Cyclamen coum
Self sown in grass
In gravel with snow, some self sown and some planted
Self sown at the back of the coldframe
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #69 on: February 17, 2010, 10:16:05 PM »
 :o Very smart this white coum albissimum "George Bisson, Hans and Roma
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2010, 01:48:44 AM »
When self-sowing, don't they always seem to find exactly the right spot? 8)
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2010, 04:12:27 AM »
When self-sowing, don't they always seem to find exactly the right spot? 8)

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I would say no.  I have had them come up on hard-packed soil in the lawn, right on the foot-worn path and in spots that are later poorly drained or bone-dry - they then get knocked out in the winter or during a drought.

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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2010, 06:11:42 AM »
When self-sowing, don't they always seem to find exactly the right spot? 8)

Lesley

I would say no.  I have had them come up on hard-packed soil in the lawn, right on the foot-worn path and in spots that are later poorly drained or bone-dry - they then get knocked out in the winter or during a drought.

johnw

It's the ones that survive that look like they've found the right spot!
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2010, 07:12:52 PM »
You're right Fermi and so far as Cyc. coum is concerned, mine only seem to self-seed onto the top of the corms or immediately around them so most have to be removed anyway, but other plants do it better. Lewisias for instances, love to self-sow in the gravel n a path or at the base of a trough. Of course that's just a few. Probably most seeds never germinate or get eaten or carted off. The survivors, as you say.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2010, 11:29:03 AM »
Just a couple of little gems that have come out this week.

First 2 are C. elegans X C. alpina
Second 2 are C.X Drydeniae which is a Coum /Alpinum cross.

The C. Drydeniae is scarcely a cm across, a miniature gen if ever there was one.  This is it's first time of flowering.

Seed for both came from the Cyc. Soc.
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