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Author Topic: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010  (Read 57615 times)

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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #255 on: September 13, 2010, 11:13:59 AM »

Taken late this afternoon before the rain.
Iris vicaria ex ABW
A close up
Iris bucharica
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #256 on: September 14, 2010, 11:54:44 AM »
The juno and aril patch showing  what is labelled as Iris vicaria on the right and the supposed Iris leptophylla on the left - look the same to me.
Then a closeup of vicaria(?)
And then the misnamed juno  ??? :-\
Are they both magnifica?
Names please?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2010, 11:58:18 AM by arillady »
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South Australia

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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #257 on: September 14, 2010, 07:04:04 PM »
The juno and aril patch showing  what is labelled as Iris vicaria on the right and the supposed Iris leptophylla on the left - look the same to me.
Then a closeup of vicaria(?)
And then the misnamed juno  ??? :-\
Are they both magnifica?
Names please?

Both yellow and white ones look like Iris bucharica to me; I'm uploading two pics of what I grew as I. vicaria.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2010, 07:08:40 PM by TheOnionMan »
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #258 on: September 15, 2010, 01:49:51 AM »
Thanks Mark - it looks like I have some mislabelled junos. Your clumps are absolutely amazing.
Pat Toolan,
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South Australia

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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #259 on: September 15, 2010, 03:21:02 AM »
Thanks Mark - it looks like I have some mislabelled junos. Your clumps are absolutely amazing.

Thanks. Earlier in this thread, I wrote that in spring 2009 deer came in and ate all my Juno Iris to mere stubs, the huge clumps of I. vicaria included, then with rain water getting into the severed leaf bases the plants rotted off, with hardly anything showing up in 2010.  :'(
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4764.msg149163#msg149163
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4764.msg149488#msg149488
« Last Edit: September 15, 2010, 03:31:20 AM by TheOnionMan »
Mark McDonough
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #260 on: September 15, 2010, 05:21:47 AM »
Now that you mention it I do remember that earlier post. Wildlife can certainly do damage.
Pat Toolan,
Keyneton,
South Australia

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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #261 on: September 15, 2010, 09:18:51 PM »
Pat, on pic 1465, are you trying to cross onco with juno ??   ;D ;)

Very very nice and so big patches...
You're really lucky to have such a climate !
But I also can imagine how hard you should have to work to keep them healthy.

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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #262 on: September 15, 2010, 10:17:12 PM »
Pat, post a picture of your Juno in side on, There are many forms of vicaria, The ones I know all have spindly flowers - quite distinct when fully open, Magnifica has much broader falls which dont crease down the centre the way vicaria does. Vicarias falls have a waist or 'pinched apearance unlike magnifica, and magnifica has broad style arms, but vicarias are wispy. see earlier posts -there are pictures. anyway a lot of that seed turned into magnifica (and some into x graeberiana) for me too. ::)
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #263 on: September 15, 2010, 10:21:30 PM »
The styles look like magnifica Pat, see if the falls pinch.
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #264 on: September 17, 2010, 11:11:34 AM »
Peter I hope these photos show what you need. The falls are definitely 'pinched'
Pat Toolan,
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #265 on: September 18, 2010, 08:20:13 AM »
Hi Pat, your posts 252 and 255 are correct so you can compare,  these look intermediate in the pictures, I think they will turn out to be magnifica though, pinched falls indicate vicaria but the flowers look too chunky  I'll try to check the details of the stands etc but you can see the narrow hafts on your vicaria from Annes seed (ABW) in your earlier post.



post 252   =http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4764.msg165499#msg165499

post 255=

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4764.msg166035#msg166035
« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 08:46:39 AM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #266 on: September 20, 2010, 11:37:41 AM »
the clump of not Iris leptophyllum now
and a not very good photo of the left side of the clump
It is a very mixed clump :D
The last photo is where I grow the Iris vicaria and a few other junos in the middle of this patch
« Last Edit: September 20, 2010, 11:41:42 AM by arillady »
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South Australia

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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #267 on: September 26, 2010, 10:50:14 AM »
Iris bucharica ex PF8223 Paul's Yellow ex ABW - I find yellows hard to photograph
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #268 on: September 27, 2010, 08:18:02 PM »
I like the Paul Furse bucharica Pat
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Re: Juno (Scorpiris) - Season 2010
« Reply #269 on: September 28, 2010, 02:34:54 PM »
Pat , wonderful news ,to know that one of Paul Furse's I. bucharica is still in cultivation . Please keep it alive ! I used to grow many of Paul's bulb indroductions , he was very generous in sending me me lots of seeds in the 1960 's from his expeditions to Turkey, Iran , Afghanistan. Also had the joy of staying with Paul and Polly at 'Hegghill' twice and seeing some of their introductions growing there.

  2 late Junos flowering here in the last few days.
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