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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #525 on: November 04, 2010, 03:52:47 PM »
That sure is early !!
Thanks for giving us hope David !  :D
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #526 on: November 04, 2010, 06:14:11 PM »
Crikey! That's amazing.... as the rest of the UK turned the clocks back an hour these Guys  seems to have fast-forwarded several weeks! ;D ;D
These flowers are so wonderful.... still a shame that more folks do not grow them.
N. cantabricus foliosus is just coming into flower here too - more-or-less the same time as last year.
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #527 on: November 06, 2010, 04:31:06 PM »
Hello all,

Last year my friend David, sent me these pictures and I am not sure if it is natural plant or a garden hybrid. It is a little N. tazetta growig between phragmites fields... is quite similar to N. canaliculatus...

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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #528 on: November 10, 2010, 01:52:36 PM »
Hi Rafa,
This seems to be a small tazetta - the size might be influenced by the surrounding strong growing herbs!
Nice little daffodil!

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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #529 on: November 10, 2010, 08:43:35 PM »
Thank you Gerd, I will study quite better this population, I think it could be something natural.

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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #530 on: November 14, 2010, 06:15:29 AM »
Cant wait to see all the bulbocodium/cantabricus daffs from the Northern Hemisphere.
The cicadas are starting to sing here and when the finish I will have my first foliosus flowering, the years should go so quickly now
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #531 on: November 15, 2010, 07:21:03 PM »
My first of the new season.Narcissus romiexii ssp. romieuxiivar. mesatlanticus with loads more buds to come.

John Blanchard doesn't seem to feel that this is sufficiently distinct from var. romieuxii to perpetuate it's name.

« Last Edit: November 15, 2010, 07:24:23 PM by David Nicholson »
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #532 on: November 16, 2010, 08:44:42 PM »
Narcissus cantabricus subsp. cantabricus var. foliosus

This is the name used by Blanchard. The name accepted by RBG Kew is N. cantabricus subsp. cantabricus - curious since the plant seems morphologically distinct; it has a pedicel.

Edit: looking at the photo,  I wonder whether this is a hybrid since the style is yellow. According to Blanchard the style should be white.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2010, 08:52:12 PM by Gerry Webster »
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #533 on: November 16, 2010, 09:52:44 PM »
Could somebody give me a name for the two Narcissus.  Birds removed the labels last year and I would like to put a name if possible.  

Photos taken on Saturday, and are in pairs.

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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #534 on: November 17, 2010, 10:26:01 PM »
Could somebody give me a name for the two Narcissus.  Birds removed the labels last year and I would like to put a name if possible.  
Photos taken on Saturday, and are in pairs.
Art - they are narcissus ::)

but these white/cream/pale yellow winter flowering plants are fiendishly difficult to name accurately.  I would bung them into N cantabricus foliosus (agg).  Do you know if they were of wild origin or from cultiavted stock/seed?  If the latter the possibility of hybridity enters :P as gerry has alluded to re his plant in recent post.  Then there is Davids' N romieuxii romieuxii 'mesatlanticus' ... I have a N 'mesatlanticus' - bulbocodium type, late winter flowers bright yellow

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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #535 on: November 17, 2010, 10:49:58 PM »
Could somebody give me a name for the two Narcissus.  Birds removed the labels last year and I would like to put a name if possible.  
Photos taken on Saturday, and are in pairs.
Art - they are narcissus ::)

but these white/cream/pale yellow winter flowering plants are fiendishly difficult to name accurately.  I would bung them into N cantabricus foliosus (agg).  Do you know if they were of wild origin or from cultiavted stock/seed?  If the latter the possibility of hybridity enters :P as gerry has alluded to re his plant in recent post.  Then there is Davids' N romieuxii romieuxii 'mesatlanticus' ... I have a N 'mesatlanticus' - bulbocodium type, late winter flowers bright yellow

yours confused as ever TG
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I am inclined to say they are virtually impossible to name accurately.
I  would put them under N. romieuxii (but not with any degree of confidence).
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #536 on: November 18, 2010, 09:55:43 AM »
I agree Gerry.
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #537 on: November 18, 2010, 06:02:08 PM »
I would go with Tony as cantabricus types, as they seem to have white styles as noted by Maggi above.
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #538 on: November 18, 2010, 08:18:32 PM »
On a closer look the second pair certainly seem to have white styles which points to N. cantabricus (or a cantabricus hybrid), though, since I can't see a pedicel in the photo, not N. cantabricus foliosus. In the first pair, the style looks yellowish on my screen so, who knows?
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Re: Narcissus 2010
« Reply #539 on: November 19, 2010, 04:31:57 PM »
Narcissus 'camoro' a present from Arthur flowering for the first time for me.
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