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Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« on: January 07, 2010, 09:54:53 AM »
Dear friends,

Working on descriptions in my new catalogue, I arrived at Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´.
I know that it is a strain from Czech Republic, but that is all....

Who raised this beautiful strain? Does anybody know?

Ragrds, Martijn
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 12:26:51 PM »
Martijn
Here are some picts. I grew Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´ from Czech (the dark one) and Jelitto seeds. Easy vogorous plants with big nodding flowers and dissected  petals.

   
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 05:22:02 PM »
hi Olga,

Very nice pictures! The dark one is wonderful! Perfect plants for the garden!

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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 05:32:57 PM »
Martiijn,
 Jelitto list the plant as having been introduced by them in 1993   :-\..... I can't find any reference in SRGC or AGS journals to help.
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 06:18:08 PM »
Mine is more pastel-colored
Anne Karin Řen, west coast of Norway. USDA zone 7 to 9, not sure.
My English is rusty.
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 06:43:42 PM »
I don't know who raised the plant but the RHS list it as Pulsatilla vulgaris subsp. grandis 'Papageno' rather than plain vulgaris 'Papageno'.  Might help in tracking the breeder down.
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 08:12:19 PM »

Who raised this beautiful strain? Does anybody know?

The Germans certainly. Probably Mozart.
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 08:22:49 PM »

Who raised this beautiful strain? Does anybody know?

The Germans certainly. Probably Mozart.
Well, yes, a flautist of some renown and popularity! :D
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 08:50:56 PM »
The Germans certainly. Probably Mozart.

That should certainly spark an Austrian sforzando, or even a precipitato!

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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2010, 08:55:21 PM »
Ooops! Yes, Lesley and I missed that one! :-[



 Still, I suppose at the time the babe was neither Austrian nor German, but a subject of the Holy Roman Empire?
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2010, 09:25:39 PM »
The Germans certainly. Probably Mozart.

That should certainly spark an Austrian sforzando, or even a precipitato!

johnw

Sorry, Mozart!
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 09:02:35 PM »
I just hear and see Papageno singing in TV, there is a contest of the 10 most favourite operas.
But let us now talk about plants. Today I phoned with Olga Duchacova from Czech Republic and
the Bavarian nurseryman Eugen Schleipfer to tell you the true story. About 30 years ago, these beauties
were raised by Czech plantsmen and 5 years later Olga bought many of them and presented them to
her numerous friends which visited her in her splendid garden. It was not such an easy travelling in the times of
the Iron Curtain, but I have so many good memories of Olga and Ruda and their generousity. It is such a pity,
that their bad health situation doesn't allow them anymore to cultivate their garden by the house and they are
so sad about this fact.
Eugen Schleipfer was also lucky enough to get these fine plants from her and started propagating and breeding,
which he does still now with big succes.He also offered seeds to the Jelitto Seed Company who propagates and
offers them as Papageno strain.
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2010, 09:26:11 PM »
Rudi, thank you very much for this clarification.

Tell me, is Eugen Schleiper the man for whom the Gentiana 'Eugen's Allerbester' is named?
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2010, 10:01:37 PM »
Maggi, you are right, it is the same person. An outstanding nurseryman, unconventional,disliking emails and internet
but an enormous knowledge of all aspects of gardening.He keeps and propagates for example a collection of 120
different Citrus plants beside his breeding work to improve various perennials. When I phoned with him this afternoon
about Papageno I was glad to have a telephone flatrate, the call lasted almost 2 hours, and beside discussing
botanical things we spoke about politics and many other things.
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Re: Pulsatilla vulgaris ´Papageno´
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2010, 10:14:48 PM »
My goodness: 120 citrus types, that is amazing. 8)
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