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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #420 on: December 01, 2010, 03:07:57 PM »
Windowsills -- they haven't built houses with windowsills around here in decades if not centuries.  When we had our home built 30 years ago, I specified a wide full-width windowsill for one south-facing picture-window.  It turned out to be a shelf; and it's full of Clivia seedlings that Irma, my wife, is pushing to flowering size.

The odd looks the builder gave me when I insisted on that "windowsill" .......
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #421 on: December 07, 2010, 08:31:42 AM »
Here's a Gladiolus which has finally flowered - well it looked like it might last year but didn't! It was from NARGS Seedex 2007 as Gladiolus permeabilis but doesn't match the description at all!
Any ideas on what it might be? It stands about 45 cm highand the flowers are unscented - even at night.
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #422 on: December 07, 2010, 10:03:17 AM »
Maybe the name isn't good
but is a nice one

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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #423 on: December 07, 2010, 10:06:51 AM »
I dont know what it is but I do like it.
Not knowing a lot about Gladiolus I thought of a white form of ssp byzantinus I have heard of but I think the flowers are the wrong shape and too crowded at the top of the stem, I guess its not a northern hemisphere species  :-\
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #424 on: December 07, 2010, 10:54:16 AM »
Quote from: PeterT on December 07, 2010, 10:06:51 AM
I thought of a white form of ssp byzantinus I have heard of

Hello Peter

The white form of ssp byzantinus is a G. italicus
I made a discussion about this and they agree it is not G. byzantinus ssp byzantinus
but a G. italicus white form

but this is not a G. italicus

Roland
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #425 on: December 07, 2010, 04:01:38 PM »
Freesia fucata.  Scented only in the warmer confines of the house.
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #426 on: December 07, 2010, 06:21:36 PM »
Quote from: fermides on December 07, 2010, 08:31:42 AM
It was from NARGS Seedex 2007 as Gladiolus permeabilis but doesn't match the description at all!

You could check with the donor of the seed:  Kurt Vickery.

It was in the 2006-2007 seedlist.
The seed number was 1512 permeabilis cream/mauve 20 - 40 cm
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #427 on: December 08, 2010, 12:17:55 AM »
Fermi, what about a side view? Permeabilis is very late flowering and the spikes are often branched. Once a branch finishes flowering a second and a third flower in time.
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #428 on: December 08, 2010, 03:05:31 AM »
Alberto,
a side view proves that it is not G. permeabilis which should have a "window" or a gap between the petals, hence the name permeabilis. I'll try to get a pic of the side view tonight or tomorrow to post to the Forum.

Diane,
I've sent Kurt an e-mail for his opinion, but he may've received the plant under this name and prseumed it to be correct.

Roland and Peter,
yes, it's a nice flower and I'll try to keep it going even if i don't know it's correct name! Let me know if you want to try some seed!

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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #429 on: December 08, 2010, 08:24:01 AM »
Hello Fermi

would be nice
I found a small picture from Gladiolus permeabilis

I can try to contact this man for you
I buy more seeds from him

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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #430 on: December 08, 2010, 08:28:33 AM »
Roland,
thank you for the pic.
Kurt has replied to my e-mail and thinks there is a chance it might be G. wilsonii and I'll investigate that possibility!
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #431 on: December 08, 2010, 08:48:16 AM »
I just bought some seeds from Gladiolus wilsonii
from the same African company
see picture
I put yours next to it to compare

Roland
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #432 on: December 08, 2010, 08:55:10 PM »
The true permeabilis is really something special. I love that combination of odd shape and odd colouring. A choice species I think. G. wilsonii is very pretty too. :)
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #433 on: December 09, 2010, 12:14:15 AM »
Lesley, several color variants are in cultivation and not all that stunning.
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Re: Bulbs from South Africa - 2010
« Reply #434 on: December 09, 2010, 08:11:22 AM »
Hello Fermi

They are looking for me in Africa for the true Gladiolus permeabilis
As soon as they find it I let you know

Roland
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