Lilium 2010

[Martin Baxendale]

Hello Martin

Am I missing a nice picture   
or you just want to keep it for yourself   

Roland

I'll try to take one today

[bulborum]

Here are the first Lilium formosanum Pricei
in flower
This is a second year seedling 50 cm high

and almost open and maybe I post it tomorrow
Lilium formosanum almost white form

Roland

[gote]

It seems to form stem roots so I probably should have planted it in a deeper pot but I doubt it would have made a difference. Most Lilium species that need staking and I have seen in the wild are ones that grow on slopes or find support in short shrubs and this seems to be one of them. I have other Lilium imports that are not yet flowering but have a much bigger central stem and stay upright without a problem. L. nepalense for instance I have seen in the wild and you can't find a single one that stays erect on its own. Although the leaves of this white one are smaller, the general habit is the same. I haven't got time in the next few days to make a picture of the plant so this magnification of an overview picture is all I have.

Lilium nepalense is quite upright when grown in gardens - excepting perhaps L. primulinum by some regarded as a form of nepalense. Lilies to some extent adapt their way of growing to the circumstances.
I think that you have got duchartreii but you should not keep it in a pot since some forms like to wander around quite a lot. The creeping habit of your plant is probably the result of pot culture. Duchartreii is quite hardy and survives even inmid-Sweden.
Cheers
Göte   

[gote]

@Pete Clarke, your unknown lily could be Lilium kesselringianum (a relation of L monadelphum, from the Caucasus)

That is very unlikely since kesselringianum is yellow please see http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=120&taxon_id=242442569
To me it looks like a typical trumpet lily of the regale/formosanum/brownii etc type. However it is difficult to say for sure. We really need several pictures in order to identify a lily. General habitus, flower from the front and from the side - if possible also bulb.
Göte

[Pascal B]

Lilium nepalense is quite upright when grown in gardens - excepting perhaps L. primulinum by some regarded as a form of nepalense. Lilies to some extent adapt their way of growing to the circumstances.
I think that you have got duchartreii but you should not keep it in a pot since some forms like to wander around quite a lot. The creeping habit of your plant is probably the result of pot culture. Duchartreii is quite hardy and survives even inmid-Sweden.
Cheers
Göte   

Hi Göte, well....., my Lilium nepalense in the garden are not well behaved and flop all around the place, similar to how I have seen them in the wild. Down at the slopes where they grow looking up you can see right in the trumpets and most grow almost horizontally. But living in a flat country (Holland), there is always wind around here so only the strongest plants stay upright....

The reason I grow this duchartrei in a pot for now is simply because it is new in my collection and not knowing which species it is and how it should be grown the first season I always plant my new stuff in pots. Now I know what it is it will be planted in the garden although a friend of mine living near Glasgow told me that planted in the open L. duchartrei produces masses of very healthy shoots with them, wanders all over the place but is shy flowering. Let's see what it does, I like the clear white with the spots so I am happy with it and can't wait for the other Chinese Lilium to flower and see what they are. I only hope none are orange species, as a Dutchman during the World Cup I shouldn't say it but I dislike that colour...

[gote]

It is true that some forms wander around and are very shy flowering. I am not quite sure what makes them flower. Some of mine flower quite nicely. At the moment I can only give the advice that as soon as they have proliferated they should be tried in various locations.
Perhaps our president can give some advice.
Nepalense is very variable and although I am a lumper in Trilliums, I want to split nepalense in nepalense, primulinum, ochraceheum and burmanicum - at least  . The Nepalense that has been with us for more than half a century with funnel shaped flowers has always been straight and sturdy when I have seen it (which is in gardens). ochraceum is a little weaker but not so much as you describe. Primulinum is fairly weak. These observations are from my garden and not necessarioy true in other places.
Cheers
Göte
 

[Lesley Cox]

- I have to agree - L.grayi is wonderful.
Here is the L.xanthellum against my garden shed, in a 6 inch pot. It's been in full sun, so can't be etiolated.
Not much flower power per foot of plant.

Oh well, print out the first picture of it, suitably cropped then enlarged and pin it on the wall above your computer. That way it will always be a well proportioned beauty

[gote]

At last my Lilies have started.
I have found that my dauricums (which are not all the same clone) tend to have reflexed tepals. I do not know wether all dauricums do this.
I still have some of the original old xMarhan which I acquired in the early sixties. It is as tough as its parents.
The followin two came from the same seed envelope stating szowitzianum. Unlike most illustrations this one has an umbel.
Cheers
Göte 

[Giles]

Lilium canadense
Lilium 'Nicotine'

[Regelian]

Giles,

what a great looking L. canadense!  Mine never bloomed and finally disappeared, but I plan to try again, especially after seeing this one.  Wonderful spotting.  Nice to see a shot of Nicotine, as mine was topped-off by slugs this season!  It can be maddening.   

thanks for sharing.

[bulborum]

I agree with Jamie

very nice L. canadense
best I have ever seen
hopefully it makes a lot of seeds

Roland

[gote]

Giles,

what a great looking L. canadense!  Mine never bloomed and finally disappeared, but I plan to try again, especially after seeing this one.  Wonderful spotting.  Nice to see a shot of Nicotine, as mine was topped-off by slugs this season!  It can be maddening.   

thanks for sharing.

Canadense is not difficult in my place but it needs moisture. It has even seeded itself on my pond border. Not in the water of course but perhaps 10 cm above the water table. Since it is truly stoloniferous I would advice against pot culture.
Cheers
Göte

[Giles]

Jamie/Roland,
Thankyou for the compliments.
Both lilies were bought as bulbs.
The L.canadense from Bloms, the Nicotine from Hyde and Son.

[Lesley Cox]

 So even slugs can have an addiction to nicotine?

[Giles]

Lilium 'Guinea Gold'
Lilium bakerianum