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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 01:20:15 AM »
This very nice red OT, PR06 8 04, first flowering this year, was produced when I crossed two seedlings that I raised from the two main different colour patterns found in Dr Griesbachs' OTs.
This speciosum Magnificum seedling grew superbly for me in Tasmania, but not so well in the heat and dry humidity of low altitude Melbourne.
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 03:59:56 AM »
G'day fermides, sorry your henryi bulbs from me did poorly for you. Even though they were all gifts, you at least want them to see a season out ;D
Perhaps you need to grow one of my 4N trumpets for a bit of shade?
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Paul,
your L. henryi hybrid which collapsed was in a bed in full sun, while the ones in a bit of shade seem fine. In a couple of years the little Chinese Pistachio trees will have put on a bit of height and will provide more shade - or maybe we won't get 40oC temperatures from now on ??? ;D ;D
Your trumpets look good - what does "4N" stand for? And that seedling OT looks very dramatic!
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 04:29:21 AM »


After last years Black Saturdays' 46C/48C with howling hot northerly winds, my  compost of pine fines ended up in New Zealand.

I wouldn't be surprised at this. Various insects including butterflies, and weed seeds have entered NZ on the strong nor'west winds from Australia, even birds. MAF won't be pleased though about your bark fines Paul. No organic material allowed entry. But not much they can do about it if it comes on the wind instead of by Qantas or Air New Zealand. ;D
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 07:47:28 AM »
Hi Paul,thanks for the info,and your Magnificum seedling, absolutely beautiful.
bye Ray
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Victoria Australia

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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 04:02:31 PM »
And a few species-- With some of them, I had to take the pollen off very early to ripen inside,  otherwise with the +40c there would be nothing left.

Langkonguense
Wardii

Regards Paul R

This is the first lankongense I have seen with the differently recurved tepals. I believed this was typical for papilliferum.
Any comments?
Your hybrids are beautiful indeed.
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2010, 06:31:45 AM »
Paul,

your seedlings are simply wonderfull.  I just started with Lilium last season, but think I lost most of the seedlings to our wet Summer.  But I'll get the hang of it......I hope.  Just keep sending the encouraging fotos.
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2010, 11:17:36 AM »
Fermi--4N means it's tetraploid, 2N diploid. N = 12 chromosomes, or one set.Almost all natural occurring lilium species are diploid.The exception may be lancifolium (lilium tigrinum), which is triploid (3N), but is it of hybrid origin?They have found diploid forms now of lancifolium.
Diploids were converted to tetraploids via exposing rapidly dividing  lilium cells to various amounts of colchicine or oryzalin for set amount of time.

Lesley--all our good top soil blowing over the ditch may be one reason that you guys can grow better Auratums than us. :) The quarantine people may make us jump through a few hoops, but we are fortunate that both AUS and NZ are free from many pests and diseases that plague the rest of the world.In 2008, though, they somehow lost my NALS seed order-I wasn't a happy little vegemite then :'(

BTW that 60c ground reading the other day was correct as I used two thermometers and both hit the top, so it probably was higher.Some liliums, mainly auratums, burnt off at ground level.
Paul R
Bunbury Western Australia

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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2010, 12:10:55 PM »
G'day Göte--I was wondering if someone would pick up on that lankongense! It is a little different, as is one of those wardiis that I posted, but I must tell you that at this time of the year I am flat out pollinating, recording and taking ''field'' photos of all new seedlings.So as you can see, at times they are not framed very well and at other times the pic may be taken when the bloom is very young, as was the case this time. I only germinated my first papilliferum this year, having been given half the seed that Joe Hoell received, so have not flowered that specie, nor have I seen it ''in the flesh'', So I should not comment. There is an article, with good photos, in NALS 2007 Year Book on papilliferum.
Regards Paul R
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2010, 12:46:13 PM »
G'day Jamie, sorry to hear you had losses with your first batch of seedlings.Do you think it was botrytis related, or not freely draining soil? I start small batches of my best seed in 200mm pots, using sterilized potting mix with 50% added course river sand, probably the same grade that you would have available for cactus?The rest get a bulk made potting soil to which I have the dealer mix in his course river grit--it's very free draining and I loose very few seedlings.
Here is a picture of my orientals germinating in the hothouse when I lived in Tasmania--so they were not exposed to heavy rain, but were well watered in quite high temperatures, and were in very free draining soil.
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2010, 02:34:38 PM »
Paul, WOW, it's great to see this sort of hybridising programme going on, a shame ( from Europes's perspective ) that you are in OZ, lucky for your countrymen though! Have you 'played' with martagon at all?
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2010, 08:34:05 AM »
Just about at the end of the Liliums for this season,2 of the latest,
Lilium rosthornii
Lilium sargentiae.
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Ray Evans
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Victoria Australia

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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2010, 08:14:58 PM »
It's great to see all these lilies from down under when everything here is dormant.  We've had a much harder winter here than normal so I'm hoping all my lily bulbs in the garden have survived - and all the young seedlings in their pots.  Only time will tell - but seeing your photos has me looking forward to the summer already.  Thank you for brightening up the winter.

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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2010, 09:22:24 AM »
Just about at the end of the Liliums for this season,2 of the latest,
Lilium rosthornii
Lilium sargentiae.
bye Ray
You have got a really nice form of rosthornii. Mine have tepals that are nearly only half as wide with much less prominent green star in the middle.
I never get any seed on mine. The frost cuts them down immediately after flowering. Do you get seed in time?
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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2010, 12:59:54 AM »
Hi Gote,have not noticed if it has set seed before,but there are pods there now so see if they fill out. Did you want some seed if I get some?bye Ray
Ray Evans
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Victoria Australia

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Re: Lilium 2010
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2010, 10:25:05 AM »
They seem easy from seed.
I have some seedlings coming on from other sources but not yet any flowers on these.
As I wrote, your form is superior so I would certainly appreciate some seeds.
Thank you very much
Chers
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