Lilium 2010

[David Nicholson]

Many thanks for the swift reply, will do.

[Paul T]

David,

If kept right they may take quite a while to die down though..... I've had Lilium seedlings grow for at least a couple of seasons without a break if I keep them cool enough in summer, so I would imagine it would be much easier for them to do so with your place.  Obviously the longer you can keep them growing the better, as the bigger the bulbs will grow.

[Pascal B]

Lilium fargesii, flowers are lime green and have the same scent as hyacinths. Cute little plant, barely 40 cm tall with grasslike leaves.

[Tony Willis]

a lily in flower as I got home from holiday.It is from China and I am assuming it is Lilium bakerianum var aureum which is how it is labeled

[David Nicholson]

Tony, according to McRae Lilium brownii is "pure creamy white inside and rosy purple to chocolate brown outside, sometimes overlaid with green". Var australis he describes as "..... with the colouring on the reverse varying from green to chocolate brown" but he doesn't mention the inside. Var viridulum he says is "pale yellow on opening but soon fading to white", the "inner surface of the tepals has green shading, and the outer surface is marked with green and rosy purple".

[Tony Willis]

David  typing error due to jet lag it is supposed to be L. bakerianum var aureum. I have changed my post,thank you

[Pascal B]

To be honest, I can't really understand what the difference is between L. bakerianum var. aureum and var. delavayi. The plant on my pictures on the previous page I have labeled as L. bakerianum var. delavayi because I thought it wasn't the clear yellow var. aureum is supposed to be but are var. delavayi and var. aureum not simply part of the same colour variation range? And var. rubrum the form in all shades of pink? Or are there more differences besides colour?

[Tony Willis]

Pascal

Derek Fox describes var aureum as yellow with purple speckling on the inside.He also says it is not so much a single species as complex group.

Perhaps the problem lies in that, did the various people describing them ever see the variation in the wild or just a few collections?

These are all new introductions and the original plants from which they were described are long gone.

[arisaema]

Lilium martagon 'Plenum'

[gote]

To be honest, I can't really understand what the difference is between L. bakerianum var. aureum and var. delavayi. The plant on my pictures on the previous page I have labeled as L. bakerianum var. delavayi because I thought it wasn't the clear yellow var. aureum is supposed to be but are var. delavayi and var. aureum not simply part of the same colour variation range? And var. rubrum the form in all shades of pink? Or are there more differences besides colour?

Tony has already said the important thing but have you checked the flora of china website?
Göte

[gote]

More lilies in flower.
Lilium distichum is supposed to have double pedicels or forked inflorecense. I have never seen that but the flowers are not summetrical and this is even more visible from the back. It grows in a funny way first comes a stalk with a whorl of leaves not unlike a Paris. Then - after some hesitation - the central bud developes into an infloresence.

Lilium duchartreii is now all over the place since the stem first grows sideways and develops offsets on the way. It seems that I have two clones since one always flowers in an umbel and the other does not. The nectaries are green tunnels in the middle of the tepals. I am not sure that the picture is clear enough. Some consider this to be the same species as lankongense. It seems that the shape of theinflorecense is not a good feature to distinguish these taxa.

Zygadenus elegans is a (modest) beauty. I wish I could grow it better

Cheers
Göte

[Pascal B]

To be honest, I can't really understand what the difference is between L. bakerianum var. aureum and var. delavayi. The plant on my pictures on the previous page I have labeled as L. bakerianum var. delavayi because I thought it wasn't the clear yellow var. aureum is supposed to be but are var. delavayi and var. aureum not simply part of the same colour variation range? And var. rubrum the form in all shades of pink? Or are there more differences besides colour?

Tony has already said the important thing but have you checked the flora of china website?
Göte

Yes I did. But not much help there:

Tepals pale yellow, yellow, brownish yellow, or purplish yellow, with purple or purple-red spots adaxially           14b var. aureum
Tepals yellowish green, pale yellow-green, greenish, or pale green, with purple or bright red spots adaxially         14c var. delavayi

Basically every shade of yellow is covered between the 2 varieties and the difference between pale yellow and yellowish green is not really clearcut.

[Paul T]

Arisaema,

The double martagon is amazing!!   

Gote,

Beautiful pics.  The assymetrical flowers on distichum are fascinating.  Very cool by the look of it. 

[arisaema]

The double martagon is amazing!!   

I thought you'd like it - just as I suspect Lesley will consider it a monstrosity Lilium cernuum 'Album' (or var. album? var. candidum?) below.

[David Nicholson]

David,

If kept right they may take quite a while to die down though..... I've had Lilium seedlings grow for at least a couple of seasons without a break if I keep them cool enough in summer, so I would imagine it would be much easier for them to do so with your place.  Obviously the longer you can keep them growing the better, as the bigger the bulbs will grow.

Sorry Paul I hd missed your reply, many thanks, very helpful.