Seed exchange 2009/2010

[galahad]

Well I got my purchased seed today - yay, I have a million Cyclamen seed to sow :-)

4 packets were held by customs and I have the option of having an environment risk management assessment done on them.  Included in these was Cyclamen X meiklei and Narcissus confusus

Lesley, if you are reading this thread, you probably have more exposure to these procedures.  Can you advise whether the assessment is a major nightmare?  Or any other NZ readers?

[olegKon]

I finally got the seed. Happy. Thanks to everybody involved. It took them more than a month to reach Moscow. Are reindeer still being used to deliver mail?

[fleurbleue]

Why not  ? Perhaps, although they are not Christmas boxes                                         

[Maggi Young]

I finally got the seed. Happy. Thanks to everybody involved. It took them more than a month to reach Moscow. Are reindeer still being used to deliver mail?

 No, Oleg.... my  Sami contacts assure me that reindeers are MUCH faster !
It seems the post is being delivered (or not, as the case may be) by dying snails.... not even fine healthy athletic ones........

[Lesley Cox]

Hi Ross, unless your bank account holds as much as that of Bill Gates, forget it. I emailed ERMA on Friday for up-to-date costs re assessment for an article I'm writing at present but haven't had a reply yet. I'll pass it along when I get one. However, last I heard, the application to assess costs $1,200 per species. On top are the costs of the assessment itself including anything they may decide is necessary such as examination in the field, visits to overseas herbaria etc etc. It could literally be many thousands but won't be less that the $1,200. The nasty part is that even if you decide to assess and it's put on the permitted list and released, you have paid the costs while anyone else subsequently may import with no costs at all as it's now a permitted species. Stinks.

It could be helpful if you could find the parents of the Cyclamen hybrid. If they are permitted (just about all Cyclemen are permitted) the hybrid will be. The Narcissus, if very closely related to a permitted species (you'd have to cite a good taxonomic reference) may be released. Have fun.

[Lesley Cox]

Oh Maggi, you've done it. Thanks so much. Having to look at that each time he opens a thread will teach Mark M to make rash promises!

[Diane Clement]

4 packets were held by customs and I have the option of having an environment risk management assessment done on them.  Included in these was Cyclamen X meiklei and Narcissus confusus 

Ross you should be able to get these two in if you tell them:
Narcissus confusus is a synonym for N pseudonarcissus major  and Cyclamen x meiklei is C creticum x repandum

[galahad]

Lesley and Diane

I have considered contacting them and letting them know the pseudonym of the Narcissus and the parents of the Cyclamen.  Knowing these guys they will probably try and change me for the effort though.

Might flick them an email

Ross

[Diane Whitehead]

the application to assess costs $1,200 per species. On top are the costs of the assessment itself including anything they may decide is necessary such as examination in the field, visits to overseas herbaria etc etc.

What a job!!  I'd love it.  Imagine being paid to fly from New Zealand to Samarkand to examine some tulips, on to Peru to look in a herbarium, then Japan for .......

Why are you still sitting at home?

[Rimmer de Vries]

My Surplus seed arrived today in USA, the first round came last week,  so now i have lots of Sax seeds to sow!

Rimmer

[t00lie]

Ross

In my dealings with M.A.F over detained seed ,(in cases where i've requested seed be released),i've found them to be very helpful .

As long as you quote the M.A.F reference number you have been given and supply information backing up the pseudonym/parents names etc,(i copy relevant pages from ,for example, the A.G.S Encyclopedia of Alpines and other publications ), you shouldn't have any problems.

I've never been charged for this review.

As i presume the seed is held in your home city of Christchurch it should be easy to sort out with minimal delay.

Cheers Dave.

[galahad]

Thanks, Dave

Have sent off an email and we will see what happens

Ross

In my dealings with M.A.F over detained seed ,(in cases where i've requested seed be released),i've found them to be very helpful .

As long as you quote the M.A.F reference number you have been given and supply information backing up the pseudonym/parents names etc,(i copy relevant pages from ,for example, the A.G.S Encyclopedia of Alpines and other publications ), you shouldn't have any problems.

I've never been charged for this review.

As i presume the seed is held in your home city of Christchurch it should be easy to sort out with minimal delay.

Cheers Dave.

[Lesley Cox]

Should be OK and no charge as Dave says. Good luck.

[dominique]

I have always hope to receive them now. What happens with the post??

[Maggi Young]

Dom, we have no idea what silly games the post office is playing , but I hear today that more seed is just arrived in Germany, after being posted in Scotland on the 9th January! 

The Seedy Gang will make every effort to repick any missing orders  possible from the remaining seed in the next while.  It does seem, however, that some of the missing orders are now being delivered, so there is hope!