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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #285 on: September 30, 2010, 08:00:47 PM »
Hello Luc,
could you tell me if my earlier posting is baytopiorum please? it looks similar to yours
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #286 on: October 01, 2010, 07:37:44 AM »
Luc, what a lot of nice colchicum dwarfs. If I had a tunnel.......

Gail. my ATRORUBENS looks like yours and i have my bulbs from different sources. But these ATRORUBENS differ in some aspects from my RUBRUM. So it`s not like E A BOWLES wrote. What shall we do???
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #287 on: October 01, 2010, 10:18:00 AM »
Gail. my ATRORUBENS looks like yours and i have my bulbs from different sources. But these ATRORUBENS differ in some aspects from my RUBRUM. So it`s not like E A BOWLES wrote. What shall we do???

I don't know.  ???  The more I read the more confused I get...
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #288 on: October 01, 2010, 10:45:59 AM »
I don't know.  ???  The more I read the more confused I get...

I know the feeling :-\ ;D
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #289 on: October 01, 2010, 11:23:13 AM »
I don't know.  ???  The more I read the more confused I get...

I know the feeling :-\ ;D
It's quite normal, the plants usually get the last laugh one way or another :-\ :-X :-\
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #290 on: October 01, 2010, 12:16:34 PM »
Hello Luc,
could you tell me if my earlier posting is baytopiorum please? it looks similar to yours
It is difficult to compare the color of the flowers because this depends on the lightlevel when the picture is taken.
The pale center and the big anthers are similar but the rest is difficult to judge.
When the leaves develop, you can expect rather broad (2 cm) and long leaves (up to 20 cm) that have a slightly curved shape (spiral-like).
I email you the botanical data.
Luc Scheldeman
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #291 on: October 01, 2010, 07:38:24 PM »
Here are Colchicum speciosum RUBRUM and Colchicum speciosum ATRORUBENS. Bowles wrote "I think the best (of C speciosum) are the two listed as rubrum and atrorubens which are so much alike that even when growing close together I sometimes have to look at their labels to be certain to which stock they belong." Hm.Hm
The colours are exact.

Both outside!
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #292 on: October 01, 2010, 07:39:43 PM »
Both inside!
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #293 on: October 01, 2010, 07:42:33 PM »
Proportions of both!
But the colour isn`t OK.
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #294 on: October 01, 2010, 07:51:25 PM »
They are clearly different clones Hagen, but so similar - they could be from the same population or seed pod  :-\
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #295 on: October 01, 2010, 07:55:15 PM »
Thanks for taking those pictures Hans.  Curious that he didn't mention the size difference...,
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #296 on: October 02, 2010, 02:24:54 PM »
From the glasshouse this morning.  Colchicum cupanii var cousturieri which I believe is the same as C. cupanii ssp cupanii.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 02:28:30 PM by Brian Ellis »
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #297 on: October 02, 2010, 09:09:09 PM »
Hagen,

Thank you very much for taking time and efforts to shiow the differences between c. speciosum Rubrum and c. speciosum Atrorunens. The differences are obvious. Now I found an answer to the question that I asked for several years.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #298 on: October 05, 2010, 06:00:14 AM »
One of the later cultivars: HUXLEY, very globular!
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Re: Colchicum 2010
« Reply #299 on: October 09, 2010, 09:20:51 PM »
Hi everybody,

Some of our Colchicum miniatures. Colchicum pieperannum bloomed already at the end of July, C. kochii and C. laetum Arzegur a some weeks later.

 


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