We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Hepatica 2010  (Read 78858 times)

Rodger Whitlock

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 630
  • overly well-read
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #195 on: March 12, 2010, 03:47:06 AM »
I've tried using pantyhose fabric to collect seeds of Anemone caucasica, but have found that the smallest available size of self-seal (zip lock) plastic bag is better because it's much easier to put on. You leave the opening slightly unsealed around the stem so there's some air circulation.

You can buy these bags about 1" square at dealers in plastics.

This method worked very well last year and I intend to use the same method to capture seed from my hepaticas (nothing special) this year.

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

chris

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • veen-helleborus
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #196 on: March 12, 2010, 07:00:45 AM »
Diane, maby I start to drink thea instead of coffee, last year I also have problems withe mice eating the seeds in my selfmade bags.
Aaron, a hilside ful of Hepatica must be heaven on earth,
here two from seed harvest in 2007
Chris Vermeire
http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/
Zomergem
Belgium

angie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3167
  • Country: scotland
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #197 on: March 12, 2010, 08:09:02 AM »
Hi Vilma,  thanks for asking the question about Hepatica seeds. I haven't had much luck with seeds ( only meconopsis ) and I am wanting to learn more. Isn't it great the help and advice that we receive from our forum friends.
Thanks Angie :)
Angie T.
....just outside Aberdeen in North East Scotland

Diane Clement

  • the people's Pepys
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2162
  • Country: gb
  • gone to seed
    • AGS Midland Garden Blog
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #198 on: March 12, 2010, 10:38:13 AM »
Diane, maby I start to drink thea instead of coffee, last year I also have problems withe mice eating the seeds in my selfmade bags.
Aaron, a hilside ful of Hepatica must be heaven on earth,
here two from seed harvest in 2007 

Two very nice ones Chris, the first one incredibly hairy!
Diane Clement, Wolverhampton, UK
Director, AGS Seed Exchange

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44770
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #199 on: March 12, 2010, 11:48:16 AM »
Back on page ten of this thread.......
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4882.msg139686#msg139686
Reply #137 on: March 03, 2010, 08:50:06 PM .... Chris showed us pix of a pink H.yamatutai which very clearly showed the notched calyx bracts ( probably not the proper name for these, sorry) whereas in most of the other photos I see on this thread these bracts seem to be simple, entire oval shapes.

Is the notched form unusual, confined to only a certain type ? I find it rather attractive and wondered how prevalent a feature this might be? I'' repeat Chris' photos here for reference:
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

johnw

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6696
  • Country: 00
  • rhodo-galantho-etc-phile
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #200 on: March 12, 2010, 11:59:06 AM »
I haven't had much luck with seeds ( only meconopsis )
Thanks Angie :)

Angie - You seem to have jumped to the head of the class!

johnw
John in coastal Nova Scotia

chris

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • veen-helleborus
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #201 on: March 12, 2010, 01:24:02 PM »
Maggy, I looked to my other H.yamatutai and they have all the notched form, even the double one and the one with the marbled leave,  on the white one it is not so strong and sometimes no notched forms, my H.henryi dont have it at all,
some more pix to show it
Chris Vermeire
http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/
Zomergem
Belgium

Diane Clement

  • the people's Pepys
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2162
  • Country: gb
  • gone to seed
    • AGS Midland Garden Blog
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #202 on: March 12, 2010, 01:28:35 PM »
Is the notched form unusual, confined to only a certain type ? I find it rather attractive and wondered how prevalent a feature this might be? I''

I agree this bract shape is particular to, and characteristic of, H yamatutoi.

Flora of China (although classifying H yamatutoi as H henryi) says:
involucral bracts margin entire or 3-toothed, apex acute.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 01:36:47 PM by Diane Clement »
Diane Clement, Wolverhampton, UK
Director, AGS Seed Exchange

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44770
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #203 on: March 12, 2010, 01:46:12 PM »
Chris, Diane, thank you very much.
Next question..... could this feature be bred into hybrids?
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

chris

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
    • veen-helleborus
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #204 on: March 12, 2010, 04:45:17 PM »
I will try it this year, Maggy, just wait another 3 years and you now it,
Chris Vermeire
http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/
Zomergem
Belgium

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44770
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #205 on: March 12, 2010, 04:50:32 PM »
I will try it this year, Maggy, just wait another 3 years and you now it,
;D :) I will wait happily to see what happens!
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

Vilma D

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 15
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #206 on: March 12, 2010, 08:22:39 PM »
Hepatica acutiloba tends to have a sweet fragrance like what we call Jawbreaker candies here in the US. It is especially strong on still warm spring days when you can smell it coming down a hillside full of Hepatica. I have not noticed this in H. americana. A friend in Japan says certain populations of H. japonica are also "fragrant" which he likened to womens powder makeup.

 Collecting seed in the wild is based on timing. Normally seeds are ripe about 4-6 weeks after flowering, but this changes on temperature during the ripening process. I missed them in the wild last year in nearly every population I visited due to a week of warm weather.

Dear Aaron, thank you for sharing this information :).  I've spent a good few minutes trying to smell my H. acutilobas today (in fact, this late afternoon).  I couldn't catch the scent (it takes a special H.acutiloba ::) or a special nose :) ). 

Please, it would be nice to hear about the H. nob. var japonicas that have the fragrance.
 
Isn't it great the help and advice that we receive from our forum friends.
Thanks Angie :)


I agree with you, Angie  :)

Dear Gail, Diane and Rodger, thank you for the invaluable tips.  You make it so much easier for the inexperienced and impatient :) .
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 08:57:46 PM by Vilma D »

Vilma D

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 15
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #207 on: March 12, 2010, 08:35:45 PM »
Dear Chris, a wonderful collection of hepaticas! :) :) There must be hundreds of them in your garden and alpine house/-s.  ::)  It must be pretty special when Spring comes into your yard. Thank you for sharing with us  :)

Ragged Robin

  • cogent commentator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3494
  • Country: 00
  • in search of all things wild and wonderful
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #208 on: March 13, 2010, 11:32:30 AM »
I haven't had much luck with seeds ( only meconopsis )
Thanks Angie :)

Angie - You seem to have jumped to the head of the class!

johnw

I agree, this is obviously your speciality Angie and no mean feat to grow meconopsis....I can't wait to see the results later on ;)
Valais, Switzerland - 1,200 metres - Continental climate - rocks and moraine

Afloden

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 454
  • Country: us
  • why not ask him..... he'll know !
Re: Hepatica 2010
« Reply #209 on: March 13, 2010, 12:06:51 PM »
Chris,

 Here is a mountain side with Hepatica. Sadly most in this population are white, but the white tend to have more fragrance. These on a sunny warm day smell really good. Not all H. acutiloba have fragrance. I have noticed those from Missouri and Arkansas do not have much, but those from east Tennessee and Georgia do have some. Even then it varies from population to population and within populations.

 I wish I knew more about the H. japonica with fragrance. I had a single plant once that died. Now I only have seedlings in their second year. I may have information on where they came from.

 Aaron
 
Missouri, at the northeast edge of the Ozark Plateau

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal