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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #270 on: February 25, 2010, 10:01:59 PM »
Crocus biflorus pulchricolor x chrysanthus from wild col seed.  Note variation, one very close or = to biflorus pulchricolor the other with clear chrysanthus influence (also shown in close up from above)
Crocus x bornmulleri.  This is a name for hybrids between chrysanthus and biflorus.  I presume in this case that C chrysanthus is the seed parent.
Tony, I'm intrigued by those hybrids, the brownish-purplish-gold tones are very appealing.
Good to know the name x bornmulleri is the catch-all for hybrids between those two species. 
Despite having got the plant from an eminient and expert grower, the name may not be valid.  Checking BM's book I find that the name C chrysanthus var bornmuelleri is used for the yellow/brown plant/s.  However I don't think it can be applied as a catch-all.  Sorry :-\

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #271 on: February 25, 2010, 10:29:45 PM »
Tony, I found I had a pic of the inside of the 'Hubert Edelsten seedling taken in the sun on Sunday, but took it into the house today and took another on the windowsill in very dull weather.  I think it looks better.
And the view from the window
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #272 on: February 25, 2010, 10:45:52 PM »
Thanks Roma.  I still lean to the view that it is a hybrid with C sieberi Tricolor.  Like Janis I have never had seed from Hubert but until a few years ago I had not had seed off C sieberi Bowles White either.  Then after 15 years of apparent sterility I got seed one year.  The first seedling to flower is ... blue, rather like C sieberi atticus which I suspect was the pollen parent.  Yours is nice, hope it has the vigour of Tricolor which multiplies much quicker than Hubert Edelsten.
Rain here, dull, milder and damp.  Crocus springing up but needing some sunshine.  I like your view better than mine, although I guess you've seen enough snow :P :)

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #273 on: February 26, 2010, 07:22:49 AM »

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Hello Udo,

and just to the right - there is a picture with one sky-blue Crocus - it is Crocus michelsonii? Cheers Igor

Hello Igor, the blue flower is Crocus carpetanus from C-Spain.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #274 on: February 26, 2010, 09:21:06 AM »
After long weeks with many snow, some Crocus today:
Crocus biflorus ssp.???, Goktepe, Turkey, geneticly similar Cr.bifl.ssp tauri
    ''     cyprius
    ''     hartmannianus from C-Cyprus, this year in my list
    ''     korolkowii 'Golden Nugget'
 

Wonderful series to start off your season Dirk !!
I keep being amazed by these black anthered biflorus' : wonderful !
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #275 on: February 26, 2010, 11:05:15 AM »
After long weeks with many snow, some Crocus today:
Crocus biflorus ssp.???, Goktepe, Turkey, geneticly similar Cr.bifl.ssp tauri
    ''     cyprius
    ''     hartmannianus from C-Cyprus, this year in my list
    ''     korolkowii 'Golden Nugget'
 

There are many places named GOKTEPE in Turkey, which one, in which part of country grew this black anthered biflorus? It isn't taurii of course. I never hear about black anthered taurii.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #276 on: February 26, 2010, 11:08:59 AM »
Simon,
Regarding your white anthered seedling from Soganli pass - I consulted with Erich Pasche and he think that this one is Crocus aerius form, nothing else is growing on Soganli matching your picture and white anthered plants sometimes occur between various Crocus species.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #277 on: February 26, 2010, 04:05:44 PM »
After long weeks with many snow, some Crocus today:
Crocus biflorus ssp.???, Goktepe, Turkey, geneticly similar Cr.bifl.ssp tauri
    ''     cyprius
    ''     hartmannianus from C-Cyprus, this year in my list
    ''     korolkowii 'Golden Nugget'
 

There are many places named GOKTEPE in Turkey, which one, in which part of country grew this black anthered biflorus? It isn't taurii of course. I never hear about black anthered taurii.
Janis
Janis, i have this Crocus from Cambridge Bulbs under the name Crocus biflorus ssp.nubigena. I ask Helmut Kerndorff with a picture and location, he write me, this biflorus is geneticly similar Cr.biflorus ssp.tauri. Ok, the flower is more similar Cr.biflorus ssp.caricus. Correct names for ssp. from Cr. biflorus is a great mystery.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #278 on: February 26, 2010, 06:49:45 PM »
Thank you very much for your help with that Janis.
Janis and Udo, the Crocus biflorus nubigena is listed in the CB catalogue as from Goktepe in Mugla.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #279 on: February 27, 2010, 06:39:34 AM »

Janis, i have this Crocus from Cambridge Bulbs under the name Crocus biflorus ssp.nubigena. I ask Helmut Kerndorff with a picture and location, he write me, this biflorus is geneticly similar Cr.biflorus ssp.tauri. Ok, the flower is more similar Cr.biflorus ssp.caricus. Correct names for ssp. from Cr. biflorus is a great mystery.
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Yes, I agree with name nubigena, it is correct by overal look of plant and locality. I don't know taurii with such color, caricus has dark filaments and brown blotches in yellow throat, veru different from yours. In my book will be included key for biflorus subspecies (more or les typical forms).
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #280 on: February 27, 2010, 10:34:27 AM »
Mention of Cambridge Bulbs prompted me to ask if anyone has an up-to-date address for him as for some reason I stopped getting his catalogue some years ago. Also, do you need to send an s.a.e. or cash for the latest catalogue? Thanks.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #281 on: February 27, 2010, 11:06:58 AM »
Martin I spoke to him last year about a list. He didnt do one.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #282 on: February 27, 2010, 03:57:57 PM »
Mention of Cambridge Bulbs prompted me to ask if anyone has an up-to-date address for him as for some reason I stopped getting his catalogue some years ago. Also, do you need to send an s.a.e. or cash for the latest catalogue? Thanks.
Yes, Norman are not more editing catalogue.
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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #283 on: February 27, 2010, 04:35:12 PM »
A few Crocuses today.

The first bud on a Crocus pelistericus I bought as a small corm from Westonbirt plants in 2008.

Also two excellent ones orignially from Janis - a C. cvijicii and C. heuffelianus "Carpathian Wonder" about to open.

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Re: Crocus in pots February 2010
« Reply #284 on: February 27, 2010, 05:28:35 PM »
A few years ago I got some tomms from the late Kath Dryden that were mixed rather than one cultivar. Can I knock them out now?
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