Fritillaria 2010

[Alex]

Yes, the bigger one is quite tall now - but I've read they can reach a metre in habitat.....

Any North American Frit experts have a view on the identity of the possible viridea above?

Cheers,

Alex

[Maggi Young]

We don't grow  F. viredea, so all we can say is that it looks right!

[shelagh]

I know that Fritllaria davidii has appeared before but I was so excited by Darren Sleep's pot at the Hexham show I said to Brian we've got a pot of those leaves they come up every year.  When I got home I looked at the leaves and there lurking in the centre was a flower.  I know we grew them from seed but ofcourse the original label has long gone. Some people have odd socks that go astray we have plant labels.  Anyway I just had to post it because ours doesn't have the dark band that Darren's did.

[Gerry Webster]

Congratulations Shelagh!

[Maggi Young]

VERY NICE, Shelagh.... a lovely colour form.

[derekb]

I know that Fritllaria davidii has appeared before but I was so excited by Darren Sleep's pot at the Hexham show I said to Brian we've got a pot of those leaves they come up every year.  When I got home I looked at the leaves and there lurking in the centre was a flower.  I know we grew them from seed but ofcourse the original label has long gone. Some people have odd socks that go astray we have plant labels.  Anyway I just had to post it because ours doesn't have the dark band that Darren's did.

Shelagh I am no expert on Davidii but if you say you have grown it from seed I dont think it is davdii first I have never heard of it producing seed it dies back to soon after flowering for seed to comemine has died back completely now also I dont think the leaves are right nor the flower.

Derek

[Gerry Webster]

That's an interesting comment Derek. I cannot remember what the leaves look like* but  I did wonder about the flower; l assumed it was just natural variation. At present I cannot lay my hands on the illustration of F. davidii published in Curtis; when I do I'll make another comment.

*on a second look I tend to agree with Derek that the leaves don't look right.

[Janis Ruksans]

I know that Fritllaria davidii has appeared before but I was so excited by Darren Sleep's pot at the Hexham show I said to Brian we've got a pot of those leaves they come up every year.  When I got home I looked at the leaves and there lurking in the centre was a flower.  I know we grew them from seed but ofcourse the original label has long gone. Some people have odd socks that go astray we have plant labels.  Anyway I just had to post it because ours doesn't have the dark band that Darren's did.

Shelagh I am no expert on Davidii but if you say you have grown it from seed I dont think it is davdii first I have never heard of it producing seed it dies back to soon after flowering for seed to comemine has died back completely now also I dont think the leaves are right nor the flower.

Derek

Derek, They are typical davidii leaves. No one other frit has such veining of leaves. Although picture isn't very good - careful look on it shows very typical feature - dentate edge of flower segments. But the leaves are sufficient for identfication, although I didn't get seeds of davidii by myself, too.
Janis
Janis

[derekb]

I know that Fritllaria davidii has appeared before but I was so excited by Darren Sleep's pot at the Hexham show I said to Brian we've got a pot of those leaves they come up every year.  When I got home I looked at the leaves and there lurking in the centre was a flower.  I know we grew them from seed but ofcourse the original label has long gone. Some people have odd socks that go astray we have plant labels.  Anyway I just had to post it because ours doesn't have the dark band that Darren's did.

Shelagh I am no expert on Davidii but if you say you have grown it from seed I dont think it is davdii first I have never heard of it producing seed it dies back to soon after flowering for seed to comemine has died back completely now also I dont think the leaves are right nor the flower.

Derek

Derek, They are typical davidii leaves. No one other frit has such veining of leaves. Although picture isn't very good - careful look on it shows very typical feature - dentate edge of flower segments. But the leaves are sufficient for identfication, although I didn't get seeds of davidii by myself, too.
Janis
Janis

Janis thank you for putting me right I think the thing that made me think it was wrong was Shelagh saying they grew it from seed I know you have never had seed nor has Rannveig and Bob and I would have thought if anyone did get seed it would have been in the Fritillaria Group book.I think the answer to this goes back to a discusion we had on the forum last year and that ended up they were from Rice grains not seed.  Derek

[Sinchets]

A few years ago I had a plant of F.crassifolia kurdica X michailovskyi. It was lost in a vole related incident, but not before I was able to use it as a pollen parent onto another F.crassifolia. The results are obviously a result of some stray F.crassifolia pollen, as well as the intended cross. The plants with clear signs of the F.michailovskyi hybrid parent have much less colouring than the pollen parent, and also more tesselation within the red area, as one would expect.

[Sinchets]

A few more pictures of Fritillaria (crassifolia kurdica x michailovskyi) x crassifolia.

[Ragged Robin]

Great looking Frits Simon and wonderful success in spite of voles 

[Lesley Cox]

I have to agree with Janis Shelagh, re the leaves anyway. They ARE typical of F. davidii so that your plant is VERY exciting, being grown from seed in the first place and being such a great colour variation. Are you able to reveal the source of your seed?

[TheOnionMan]

A few more pictures of Fritillaria (crassifolia kurdica x michailovskyi) x crassifolia.

Simon, those are awesome hybrids   Wish I had seen this just a couple days ago, I have both parent species flowering, and I could have tried making the same cross... judging from your results it would be well worth the effort.  Now for the last two days we've had cold soaking rain, a little bit of snow, and then more rain, more rain predicted tommorrow, so I suspect my opportunity to try the cross is gone for this year.

And just for the heck of it, I'm throwing in a photo of F. kittaniae, this is it's first flowering, and it is tiny tiny, about 3" tall (7.5 cm)... I'm not familiar with the species, does it look right?

[Mark Griffiths]

A few more from me

F. whittalii

F crassifolia

F. erhartii