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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #135 on: May 31, 2010, 09:47:26 PM »
This is a picture of 'Early Bird' taken at Binny Plants in Scotland last year.  I would have said it is different to the Wisley plant.....
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #136 on: June 01, 2010, 12:06:57 AM »
Oh dear.  Not alpine.  Not subtle!  That's not a finger holding the flower, that's my arm.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #137 on: June 01, 2010, 03:38:22 AM »
Lesley here is what we grow as Early Bird in Canada. From last year. Flowers stand up well without support in light shade.....so long as there is no rain.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #138 on: June 01, 2010, 03:56:01 AM »
This seedling has been improving over the last few years. It is similar in stature to Early Bird and produces seed as a bonus, whereas Early Bird is a dud as far as seed is concerned.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #139 on: June 01, 2010, 08:56:48 AM »
Oh dear.  Not alpine.  Not subtle!  That's not a finger holding the flower, that's my arm.

Maybe not subtle but gorgeous!  Is that Rimpo?

Lovely plants Rob.  There seem to be a lot of tenuifolia hybrids being released in the States now but they are not seen much over here yet.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #140 on: June 01, 2010, 09:44:51 AM »
Oh dear.  Not alpine.  Not subtle!  That's not a finger holding the flower, that's my arm.

Maybe not subtle but gorgeous!  Is that Rimpo?

Lovely plants Rob.  There seem to be a lot of tenuifolia hybrids being released in the States now but they are not seen much over here yet.

In the photo below from 14th May is a US-bred tenuifolia hybrid (still a young division) called 'Little Red Gem', which was a gift from Reaths Nursery in Michigan USA but which is available in the UK from Binny Plants. It seems much more shade-tolerant and is more vigorous than the species especially here in South Devon where it's far too wet in Summer for the species to be really happy. It's extremely hardy and like all Paeonia, needs loads of root space and a deeply prepared well-drained soil with plenty of organic matter to perform well in the longer term.

Planted with sweetly scented Dwarf Bearded Iris 'Lilli white', Paeonia Mlokosewiczii [Paul Christian] and Rhododendron 'Barnaby Sunset', which flower for me at the same time. In the background behind the Rhododendron you can just about make the cream-flowered Paeonia (W. var) Macrophylla [Paul Christian], a very strong-stemmed architectural species with huge leaves (as you'd expect from the name !), which is in the parentage of some of the most sought-after US hybrids.

The photo doesn't really do the colour justice - a bit of shade accentuates the beautiful glowing cherry red colour, which catches your eye from right across the garden. Little Red Gem is one of my favourite Paeonia.

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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #141 on: June 01, 2010, 09:48:36 AM »
Early Bird is really dramatic Rob - a wonderful intense colour and I love the open form.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #142 on: June 01, 2010, 10:01:46 AM »
What a beautiful planting combination Kim heightening your Little Red Gem - thanks for showing it in your garden.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #143 on: June 01, 2010, 11:44:21 AM »
"Straight" P. tenuifolia struggles here so I must try Binny Plants to see if 'Little Red Gem' might like life in Aberdeen.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #144 on: June 01, 2010, 12:06:26 PM »
May I ask what Paeonia could it be?





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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #145 on: June 01, 2010, 12:13:04 PM »
May I ask what Paeonia could it be?







Definitely looks like a 1st generation tenuifolia hybrid. Could be a mature specimen of L.R.G. (?) as it's been widely available in cultivation for a long time, but there are several others that are similar form. Check out the link below ..

http://www.oldheirloomroses.com/Peony/Little_Red_Gem.htm

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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #146 on: June 01, 2010, 12:55:28 PM »
"Straight" P. tenuifolia struggles here so I must try Binny Plants to see if 'Little Red Gem' might like life in Aberdeen.

Good luck with that - I'd plant it in full sun in Aberdeen though, Maggi !

Binny's 2010 list also had another dwarf rock garden Paeonia hybrid called 'Picotee' that's very beautiful too and might be worth seeking out if you order from them. A very interesting hybrid [P. corsica x P. macrophylla], it was originally introduced by Saunders in 1949. 'Picotee' has crimson stems (colour lasts right through to dormancy), large leaves for such a small plant making a good contrast with the tenuifolia types, and white single flowers that are stained/edged pink. Becomes wider than it is tall and, unusually for Peonies, it grows well in large pots too.

Looking at their prices, I may be wrong but someone may possibly have been tissue-culturing it to bring the price down as they have been doing with the Intersectionals.. I got mine from USA a coupe of years ago as full root-divisions and a reliable German supplier is asking 3 1/2 times Binny's catalogue price, but you could be onto a real bargain if it's the genuine article !

The pink staining fades quite quickly in full sun (lasts longer with a bit of shade) and is unfortunately bleached out on my photo taken in very bright sun (25th May), but you get some idea of the form from the picture.  Grows vigorously for me.

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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #147 on: June 01, 2010, 01:34:04 PM »
Great info, Kim ,thanks.

Yes, the problem of finding enough sun up here and in our garden in particular is  tricky one.  ::) :-[ :-X :(
I keep trying, of course ....lots of seed from Hans J. to encourage me  :)
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #148 on: June 01, 2010, 03:26:05 PM »
Kimjy thank you very much! But it is not red and it is not little.  :) It is about 135 sm high. Sorry I didn't said it before. I also have P. tenuifolia - it is very different. This unknown peony looks closer to P. anomala.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #149 on: June 01, 2010, 03:46:13 PM »
Olga :

for me looks your plant more also like a P.anomala !
I think this species is well distributet in your country....

Kimjy :

I'm not so shure that P. 'Little Red Gem' so much P.tenuifolia blood .....but it is really a nice plant
This is what I found ithe web :

LITTLE RED GEM (David Reath, Vulcan, Michigan), March 1988. Hybrid, first bloomed 1980. Seedling #G-9. Parentage Gwenda F2 x self. A new rock garden peony, a single light red; blooms very early with tenuifolia season. 12-18" in height, fine cut foliage, dwarf, mound type, blooms above dwarf plants. Slender strong stems. Bulletin #266.


To P.'Picotee'
It is difficould with the crosses from Saunders - I have read he used plants for his crosses which he has received under this names ....but it is not shure that this the true species or hybrids or wrong named plants ....
Anyway - he made a lot of wonderful crosses and I'm a big fan of his plants
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