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Hans J

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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #90 on: May 17, 2010, 07:50:22 PM »
here is a pic from my Lavender from 2008 :
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #91 on: May 17, 2010, 08:14:51 PM »
What beauties - I really like Paeonia 'Gauguin' too - lipstick red and the central boss is superb  :)
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2010, 09:05:32 PM »
Robin :

N.Daphnis has made many beautiful breedings ....the problem is to get them ( they are rare and expensiv )
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2010, 09:16:38 PM »
Here is a pic of my Paeonia mlokosewitschii
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2010, 09:21:39 PM »
And some pictures of more Peonies.

The Paeonia rockii is from wild collected seed of J.J. Halda.

The Paeonia rockii seedlings are now in their 4th year of groth exclusive the year of germination. Thei have developed well and the first flowered last year. I have already removed severel of them because they are too close to each other. I planted them to a hedge... I am excited how they are doing! :-)
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2010, 09:24:07 PM »
Last for today are some really lovely P. wittmanniana ssp. macrophylla. Their pure early white flowers are always impressing. Nevertheless the robust stature of the plant. It flowered here in Switzerland around April the 20th.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2010, 10:19:19 PM »
Hans - love the softer colour of the Lavender as it fades.  I hadn't realised it was a strain.

Lukas - some lovely plants you've got.  The rockii looks a really nice form and the P. wittmanniana ssp. macrophylla is perfect!
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2010, 09:57:22 AM »
Gail - here is a pic of my group from my 'Lavender' from today  :D

I love this cultivar and so I had before some years the idea to repeat this cross from Saunders ( coriacea x lactiflora ) .....the pollination was succsessfull and I have rised one seedling ....I hope he will flower in next year .
In this time I had a P.coriacea ( in meantime lost ) and I used a P.lactiflora 'White Wings' for this cross ...the leaves looks like a intermediate between both species
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #98 on: May 20, 2010, 07:52:35 PM »
Here's my Paeonia anomala.

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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #99 on: May 20, 2010, 08:06:38 PM »
Hans - I will be interested to see pictures if your cross flowers next year.

David - nice looking plant, I do get the veitchii/anomala plants muddled.  For anyone else similarly confused there is an interesting Canadian site - http://www.peony.ca/species/anomala.htm

Flowering here now is another with a confusing nomenclature.  Grown from AGS seed  as P. ostii  this is sometimes called Feng Dan Bai instead but whatever the name it is a good robust plant that survived my husband dropping a large willow limb on it.
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #100 on: May 20, 2010, 08:22:58 PM »

David - nice looking plant, I do get the veitchii/anomala plants muddled.  For anyone else similarly confused there is an interesting Canadian site - http://www.peony.ca/species/anomala.htm

Thanks Gail. You might be interested in the discussion we had last year on veitchii/anomala here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3114.135
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #101 on: May 20, 2010, 08:29:13 PM »
David ,

sorry ...but your plant looks really not like a P.anomala - it is shure a P.veitschii

It is really a shame how many wrong named plants or hybrids are in the collections

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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #102 on: May 20, 2010, 08:40:04 PM »
According to the Flora of China (and, I suspect, the upcoming monograph) P. veitchii has been reduced to a subspecies of P. anomala - so naming it P. anomala would not be incorrect.

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1 Flowers solitary, terminal, rarely 1 or 2 underdeveloped flower buds also present in axils of distal leaves   14a subsp. anomala
+ Flowers (1 or)2--4 per shoot, both terminal and axillary, usually 1--3 underdeveloped flower buds also present in axils of distal leaves   14b subsp. veitchii
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #103 on: May 20, 2010, 08:47:23 PM »
David ,

sorry ...but your plant looks really not like a P.anomala - it is shure a P.veitschii

It is really a shame how many wrong named plants or hybrids are in the collections

Hans

Hi Hans, they seem to be mixed up. Maybe this will put matters to rights.


http://www.cababstractsplus.org/abstracts/Abstract.aspx?AcNo=20043099334
 
David Nicholson
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Re: Paeonia 2010
« Reply #104 on: May 20, 2010, 08:59:38 PM »
And the full paper as a .pdf is available for free here:

A TAXONOMIC REVISION OF THE PAEONIA ANOMALA COMPLEX (PAEONIACEAE)

They also reduce P. beresowskii and P. veitchii v. woodwardii to synonyms of P. anomala ssp. veitchii.

 


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