Primula 2010

[Mark Griffiths]

It's good to be posting back though I have been enjoying many of the pictures of the irises, Cyclamen and Narcissus here on and off.

I find I rarely lose them. Even if the tops rot off (yay! cutting material) most varieties they come from the base again. It happened to virtually all of them when they spent the winter with my father and he decided to put up bubble wrap, 4 months in a warm moist giant plastic bag.

Can I ask where you got the crowsley from (assuming it was a commercial sourse)?

[David Nicholson]

I think it was from a plant sales table at a NAPS Show a couple of years ago at least.

[sippa]

You are right Mark the allionii is 'Anna Griffith'  I have been traveling so I must have missed the question, Sorry!

Marianne

[Mark Griffiths]

Here are some "white" allioniis

"Eureka" which is supposed to be one of the best pure whites.

"Avalanche" which was regarded as one of the best in the 70s when it was being sold by Joe Elliott. My first one had a touch of pink and he replaced it. I always regard it as cream. Often there is a touch of pink in it.

"Lacewing" picotee. Not sure I really like it.

"Crystal" opens pure white and then goes pink. Rather fetching.

"Kermis" old pic. I noticed this one hasn't flowered for the last few years, I have no idea why that it.

[Eric Locke]

Nice Mark,I must check on how mine are doing.

Eric

[mark smyth]

Regretably,I am afraid so.The asiatics are notoriously difficult in this part of the U.K. but I believe grow easily in the north.

Like this one in a shallow no sun trough?

[Maggi Young]

Lovely Mark.... super photo .... who could resist that colour?
The trough may make it easier to combat the vine weevils, too?!

[mark smyth]

It's Margaret's plant and I lust after it  . She controls vine weevils with pesticides

[Mad]

Hi to you all! I know that I'm not very present, but I don't have such beautiful plants as yours. I like very much to see and read your comments.

Yesterday I went in the woods and there were millions of P. vulgaris , a yellow carpet.

But, I found this (sorry, I cannot manage to insert photos as clickable thumbnails   ):

<img src="http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/MadBruno/Immagine101.jpg" width="400">< /a>

<img src="http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/MadBruno/Immagine103.jpg" width="400"></a>

{edit by maggi: thumbnails added below, as an alternative....   }


Is it P. vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii?

[Maggi Young]

Hi, Maddi.... good to see you again!
Yes, it is P. vulgaris ssp. sibthorpii ..... and very nice too.... have you photos of the yellow primroses also?

[Mad]

Hi Maggi!  Thanks for the thumbnails! 

Of course I have photos of the P. vulgaris .

Here are two of them (links again...):

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/MadBruno/Immagine161.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/MadBruno/Immagine106.jpg

Why is there only one ssp. sibthorpii in all the region (I never saw another one)? How did she reached that place? 

[Maggi Young]

Well, strictly speaking, since the pink primula is not in the exact geographivcal range of P. sibthorpii, it is not that... though if the plant were being cultivated one would certainly give it that name..... the natural range os sibthorpii is Northern and  central Greece,the Crimea, Turkey, the Caucasus and Armenia (this from John Richards' book) ..... given that you found it in your local woods it must simply be an unusual colour break.... which is, after all, how the sibthorpii will have arisien in the first place....


Here are Maddi's pictures of both magnificent yellow vulgaris and a lovely pale form,  for those unable to download her photobucket images....

[Mad]

Thanks Maggi! In fact I consulted too the Richards' book too and I was not sure of the identification because of the area. But... there were no other ID possible... Especially after seeing the photo on Primulaworld site. 

I will check better that zone, maybe I'll find some other forms.

I'm happy that you like the others two. Even if they are common, I think they are breathtaking when all in flower in the woods.

[gote]

I am very frustrated now!
Although we have a lot of snow the mice have awaked last Friday and then they have eaten 3000 Primulas incl. the roots over night!! All Show Aurikulas - 500 plants, 500 Primula allionii and nearly all of my new young Alpine Primulas - 2000 plants and more than 100 different Androsace. So the work of the last 10 years was destroyed while some hours. Only the larger plants in my green houses have survived. They has eaten all Lilium seeds and all seeds of Daphnes, too, although the soil is frozen.

Hans
Mice are a menace and I am very sorry for you.
In the time I grew auricula primulas I sometimes had mice eating the rhizome. I then found that there is a small chanse that root fragments left in the soil will act as root cuttings. So please do not throw it all away oo early. Some cultivars may recover even if decreased to small stumps of roots.
Perhaps you already know this.
Regards
Göte

[Maggi Young]

I think they are breathtaking when all in flower in the woods.

I agree, a wonderful sight and the clumps you photographed are very nice and fat!  



Göte, a  good point about the root cutting possibility for Hans' eaten primulas.
It must be hard to face that scenec of destruction and keep calm.