Pleione Spring 2010..... to July!

[Slug Killer]

Some are recently from China as mentioned in one or two of the posts and as usual are not true to name. Looking at Rob's picture, I think he thought he was getting P. aurita as that's what the label says. That's why there are always so many ID questions when they flower for the first time.

It gets even more confusing when there is mis-information on sites like Rareplants. It states for example that P. Christianii was done in cultivation and that's why there is a capital C and P. christianii with the small c is of wild origin.

David

[karel_t]

Several more from today:

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Very nice series Karel !
The potful of x barbarae is a very good example of its diversity !!

[Pete Clarke]

1) Re. Pleione size, what ever this is, it is large - 12cm across.
2) xbarbarae are my last to flower, this the 1st clone I have.

[ThomasB]

I'd say the first one with large flowers is probably a 'Shantung'

[Pieter]

Hello all

I finally found some time to get on the forum.

There are a few pictures of new flowering plants.

1) Alde Saran (Gunter Blankenberg)

David, if I compared it to yours I would say there is a serious difference within the grex. My form looks so well like a bulbocodioides that it is hard to imagine this is a cross with coronaria. Only the faint blur of the spots makes a difference. Would do you think?

2) limprichtii
This pleione came to me as a P. Quizapu. Apperently it is not.

3) x taliensis pale form?
This is a Pleione in my collections that fell victim to the blackbirds in my garden. A few years ago the birds thought it was a good idea to remove all the labels from my pots. Result: a lot of Pleione without a name. Most labels I was able to put back in the right pot but not all. This is the one that stayed behind. I only have two labels left: Piton and x taliensis. Since the flowers are so slender I don't think this is Piton but I am in doubt where as this is x taliensis. Any one with an idea?     


Greetings

Pieter

[Slug Killer]

Pieter

It will be interesting to see further differences in P. Alde Saran as more people acquire seed grown bulbs from Blankenburg/Bergel as it was a joint registration. Last year he was using a photo that I provided but as the bulbs he was selling are seed grown there is probably a lot of variation (only he knows). I do have 3 smaller bulbs and it will be interesting to see how they flower next year.

Number 3 could be a pale P. piton but looks more like P. xbarbarae than P. xtaliensis.

Number 2 could be P. limprichtii or P. bulbocodioides as they are very difficult to tell apart at times.

David

[Pieter]

David,

In the case of P. Alde Saran there will be a lot of variation. If you compare these flowers to the flower of Alde Saran on Gunter Blankenburg website, you wouldn't think it is from the same cross. I also have two bulbs but only one flowered this year. Hopefuly the other one will be more like the coronaria parent. I actually bougth this hoping it would look like the one on his website. 

The other Pleiones, for as far as I can remember, the Piton I bought didn't look like this one. And I actually only bougth one x barbarae and that is the one in the picture in my previous post.  I am guessing there still are a lot of bulbs out there who are not what they say they are. So you are in for a surprise, could be bad but could also be better than expected. 

Rob,

As for mutant Pleiones, I had a P. Volcanello this year without a lip. Just the petals, sepals and the column.


Greetings 

[karel_t]

P. coronaria and some next from today.
K.

Pln. coronaria
Pln. Ganymede
Pln. Jorullo
Pln. limprichtii
Pln. Shasta
Pln. Ueli Wackernagel 'Pearl'
Pln. x barbarae
Pln. yunnanensis

[Tomas]

Karel, very nice Pln. coronaria...
T.

[johanneshoeller]

P. yunnanensis

[Pieter]

Hello Hans

That is a verry nice form of yunnanensis. I haven't seen many with such a great lip and with yellow.


Hello Karel

Great serries. Your Ganymede is the nicest form within this grex I have seen. I love that Shasta. Verry nice. To bad it is not common. I haven't found any nursery that has this in stock. Do you know where you originaly got it from?

Greetings

Pieter 

[Slug Killer]

Pieter

P. Shasta originaly done by I.Butterfield in 1992.

P. Sajama (P. limprichtii x P. hookeriana) x P. aurita

David

[karel_t]

Pieter,
I have Shasta from Ian, however Hi has only several plants and hasn't this hybrid in his common offer.
K.

[Pieter]

David

If this Pleione is registered in 1992, you would think it is more common.
I find there are a lot of nice hybrids, even old ones, that are verry rarely seen. Is this beceause these are slow to multiply, not commercialy, ... ? 

Karel

Was this a recent purchase? Maybe I will ask Ian in october if he has one to spare. I contatced him last your for a few other rare beauty's (Edgecombe and Santa Maria) and he would look what he could do. So, fingers crossed.

Greetings

Pieter