Sedum species

[WimB]

A friend of mine grows this Sedum as Sedum bodneri. That name does not exist, the only name that comes close is Sedum bodinieri. But that's a low yellow flowering one (synonym of Sedum stellarifolium) so that's certainly not this species.
Does anyone here know which Sedum this might be?

[fleurbleue]

It seems like S. anacampseros http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.stauder.net/bildearkiv/Sedum%2520anacampseros.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.stauder.net/bildearkivet.htm&usg=__wgdjaw0I84iorwKvG1w48-A9iMc=&h=354&w=360&sz=37&hl=fr&start=2&itbs=1&tbnid=D6B-wrggy74D_M:&tbnh=119&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSedum%2Banacampseros%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D

[Lori S.]

I think S. anacampseros has entire, not toothed, leaves.
http://www.sedumphotos.net/v/sedum-a/Sedum+anacampseros+_2_.jpg.html

I recently saw a picture of a hylotelephium-type sedum with toothed leaves but of course I can't remember now where it was!  Grrr!

[maggiepie]

Sorry I can't help.
Lori, fantastic website, thanks for the link.

[fleurbleue]

Perhaps a Sedum telephium ssp  I do as much I can  We shall find it 

http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://sophy.u-3mrs.fr/Photo-cp/Scr/Sedum_telephium_____________07_07_2003_1.JPG&imgrefurl=http://sophy.u-3mrs.fr/photohtm/FI785.HTM&usg=__-2Bbq6DwQow1UFBBbntbfPyfODE=&h=640&w=512&sz=84&hl=fr&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=A_61xBv9JOOIJM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSedum%2B%2Btelephium%2Balpes%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D

[Lesley Cox]

Have you tried looking under Rhodiola? It seems to have a similar structure/habit to R. rosea.

[fleurbleue]

I have looked at Rhodolia pictures but it doesn't seems to be

[Maggi Young]

I think we need Frazer Henderson here... he's a great Telephium fan......

[Lesley Cox]

I think we need Frazer Henderson here... he's a great Telephium fan......

I hope he's not in the Yemen. It doesn't seem a good place to be right now.

[Maggi Young]

I think we need Frazer Henderson here... he's a great Telephium fan......

I hope he's not in the Yemen. It doesn't seem a good place to be right now.

I wondered that myself, Lesley.... he hasn't been around the Forum for a while.... I'll drop him a line... 

[TheOnionMan]

I have looked at Rhodolia pictures but it doesn't seems to be

I agree, has the look and feel of a Rhodiola.

[WimB]

Many thanks for your answers. This morning I received the answer.

Lori, I mailed the person who has build the site you referred to (Wayne Fagerlund) and asked him if he might know which species it is.
He in his turn contacted Ray Stevenson (from England, so maybe some of you know him) who is the author of 'Sedum cultivated stonecrops' and he gave me this answer: the plant was originally called Sedum fabaria var. borderi, now it has been assimilated into Hylotelephium telephium.

 

[Lvandelft]

Wim, I did not see your question earlier, but I think that is the one.
Praeger in his account on Sedum calle it Sedum fabaria ssp borderi, I believe.Sedum fabaria belongs to de Telephium Group.
Hylotelephium telephium is the newer name for these plants, but I still prefer to use Sedum.
This same plant is in Holland found near old estates.
They seem to seed and maybe hybridise easily too, so you might find some difference in plants too.

[TheOnionMan]

Well, the first thing I did when I saw this post, was to grab my Handbook of Cultivated Sedums by Ronald Evans, and flip to the Telephium grouping.  But after studing that, I still didn't find anything that I could hang my hat on.  I think part of the problem with the Evans book is that the photos are so small, and often of underdeveloped pot-grown plants that they barely resemble what a particular plant might look like growing more robustly outdoors. 

For everyone to judge, I scanned the photo page that has a shot of S. fabaria var. borderi, then the species description for both S. fabaria and for var. borderi.  The scan images of the text pages are a little larger than the SRGC recommendation, but I was trying to retain text legibility.

[WimB]

Luit, thanks for affirming the determination. I think my friend will agree with you and keep it as Sedum instead of Hylotelephium.

Mark, if you have to indentify a fullgrown plant from those pics you might have some difficulty indeed. It looks as if they are pics of plants that he just bought.

Does anyone know the book Sedum: cultivated stonecrops?