Fessia 2010

[Hristo]

A warm day here has bought Fessia greilhuberi into flower.

[Gail]

Okay - not one I've heard of, a scilla relative??

[Hristo]

This was a naughty one Gail, this is Scilla greilhuberi according to the Kew Checklist but there are major proposals afoot to split Scilla up into various new genera, I'm getting into gear now!!!

[Gail]

I still hadn't heard of the species but at least the genus name is familiar! 
Congratulations on your forward thinking!

[TheOnionMan]

This was a naughty one Gail, this is Scilla greilhuberi according to the Kew Checklist but there are major proposals afoot to split Scilla up into various new genera, I'm getting into gear now!!!

I've seen the proposed split up of the genus (can't put my fingers on it right now though), creating a bunch of new genera each with one to a few species each, and a few others reassigned to other existing genera

A break-up such as this, then creating a number of monotypic genera seems absurd.

[cohan]

i was thinking scilla-ish..is it tiny, or are those leaves long?
i think i saw this genus split up on pacific bulb society website..

[TheOnionMan]

i think i saw this genus split up on pacific bulb society website..

Yes, I'm on that forum, and that's where I was searching, I can find the commentary, but not the actual proposed taxonomy.  I'm still looking.

[Sinchets]

Cohan, the flower stalk of this one is abnormally short and may lengthen later. Normally, for us, they get to 20cm tall.
Mark, the split does actually make some sense. We grow quite a few different 'Scilla', and the only thing some of them have in common is their colour.
'Sinchets' is bulgarian for Scilla bifolia- it is a diminutive of the word for blue- it can also be used to describe other plants, which aren't Scilla bifolia, but are also blue. 
This is the link you need
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/pbs/2003-December/016258.html

[Lesley Cox]

It will mean MORE bulbs we can't import or their seeds. Blast the taxonomists.

[Hristo]

Lesley, get em in now before the Kew checklist changes!

[Diane Clement]

Lesley, get em in now before the Kew checklist changes! 

Too late, the Kew checklist has Fessia

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/qsearch.do;jsessionid=C9704EBEE1CD081FDCD40240B371823D

quite a lot of changes in the area of Muscari/Scilla/Hyacinth- us -ella -oides
Chionodoxa and Galtonia gone, Pseudomuscari is back after disappearing for a while, Prospero and Barnardia appearing.

Sorry Lesley! 

[Hristo]

LOL,Super stuff Diane!

Lesley, given they allowed these seeds in under, for example Scilla greilhuberi can't one just explain that the name has changed but the plants haven't suddenly become kiwi eating triffids?

[cohan]

LOL,Super stuff Diane!

Lesley, given they allowed these seeds in under, for example Scilla greilhuberi can't one just explain that the name has changed but the plants haven't suddenly become kiwi eating triffids?

or, can't you just have them shipped under the old name?

[Hristo]

Good one Cohan, now that would be even easier! Unless the regulatory authorities are unusually efficient and up to date in all things taxonomic and will not allow stuff in on the basis of taxonomic sloth maybe?
( Taxonomic sloth does not live in Madagascar or eat vegetation  )

[cohan]

Good one Cohan, now that would be even easier! Unless the regulatory authorities are unusually efficient and up to date in all things taxonomic and will not allow stuff in on the basis of taxonomic sloth maybe?
( Taxonomic sloth does not live in Madagascar or eat vegetation  )

i think i saw that one on the discovery channel--it has latin and greek names growing on the long hair instead of algae!