Identification Galanthus

[TheOnionMan]

Fair enough , McMark, but surely you missed Richards pix on Reply 97 of page 7 of THIS very thread?
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5087.msg141024#msg141024
 

Of course I did not miss Richard's message, it came soon after mine... I was waiting at the edge of my seat to see what the galanthophiles had to say about Richard's Galanthus "thingy". Unfortunately inconclusive again, and the posting did not garner any commentary... well except for cat spray, grubby hands, and the curious round about men using moisturizer

Your vrvforum link was the most useful in helping to answer what my plant might be, thank you, you are so QuickDraw McGraw with your point-on URL grab bag!  Dead-Eye Maggi McGraw to the rescue
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quick_Draw_McGraw_Show

[Paddy Tobin]

Mark,

I think many members of this forum are inclined to be "inconclusive" when asked to name a snowdrop from a posted photograph as they have found from experience that this is not the most reliable method of identifying a snowdrop and once an incorrect name is attached to a snowdrop it is inclined to stick with it and continue misnaming and further confusion.


Paddy

[TheOnionMan]

Mark,

I think many members of this forum are inclined to be "inconclusive" when asked to name a snowdrop from a posted photograph as they have found from experience that this is not the most reliable method of identifying a snowdrop and once an incorrect name is attached to a snowdrop it is inclined to stick with it and continue misnaming and further confusion.

Paddy

Thanks Paddy, but I do understand that.  Conversely, it might be beneficial in ID cases to say something like "no, your named double galanthus looks like a standard double nivalis" (offered without invective), or "it looks like a hybrid", or "it does not look like this or that named cultivar", or provide a photo link showing what the true plant looks like from a reliable web resource. You know, useful information that helps the learning experience and furthers the general understanding about these plants for forumists. I believe there is a level with which this can be done, without risking further confusion.

[RichardW]

Galanthus "thingy" it is then.

think it was given to me as double sharlockii.

[bulborum]

they just started
and for starters a picture of G. trojanus
good start

Roland

[vivienr]

Thanks Paddy, but I do understand that.  Conversely, it might be beneficial in ID cases to say something like "no, your named double galanthus looks like a standard double nivalis" (offered without invective), or "it looks like a hybrid", or "it does not look like this or that named cultivar", or provide a photo link showing what the true plant looks like from a reliable web resource. You know, useful information that helps the learning experience and furthers the general understanding about these plants for forumists. I believe there is a level with which this can be done, without risking further confusion.

Mark, I only have Ophelia and Dionysus of the Greatorex doubles, but they are both a much darker green than Flore Pleno which is a much paler yellow/green as shows up well in the comparison photos.
G. n. Fore Pleno is a great snowdrop for building up into drifts and it doesn't really matter what the inners look like when you are gazing at thousands of them

[Alan_b]

G. n. Fore Pleno is a great snowdrop for building up into drifts and it doesn't really matter what the inners look like when you are gazing at thousands of them

provided, of course, that you keep at a safe distance.

[steve owen]

Mark,

I think many members of this forum are inclined to be "inconclusive" when asked to name a snowdrop from a posted photograph as they have found from experience that this is not the most reliable method of identifying a snowdrop and once an incorrect name is attached to a snowdrop it is inclined to stick with it and continue misnaming and further confusion.


Paddy

Paddy
Some of us are simply too new/inexperienced at snowdrops to risk offering an on-line ID. Personally I find it very interesting and helpful that some of the more experienced forumists are able to offer opinions on pics posted, and at least twice recently, after an ID was suggested,  the bulb owner fessed up and said yes, he's had that named bulb growing nearby but had "lost the label".  So I would say the ID-ers are doing us a useful service and I hope they keep doing so even if occasionally they get it wrong.
Steve

[Paddy Tobin]

Steve,

You are, of course, correct and the opinions of the more experienced growers is very valuable. Certainly in the situation where someone wonders if a snowdrop could be a particular one, suggesting a name or asking to help decide if it is this or that, again giving names then showing a photograph and seeking an identification is a good way to go about it.

However, expecting someone to identify a snowdrop simply on the basis of a photograph is not the best approach - without some other information with it.

Paddy

[Alan_b]

Galanthus "thingy" it is then.

think it was given to me as double sharlockii.

A double sharlockii ought to have the large split spathe that is characteristic of the single form of sharlockii.  It does have the green-tipped outers, however.

[mark smyth]

Anyone know thi snowdrop? It has huge elwesii leaves but they are plain green. It's not woronowii. It could be Galanthus sp. I'll get a better photo of the inner later

[mark smyth]

a couple more photos

The taller flower is 10 inches 26 cm high
Tallest leaf is 7.5 inches 19cm
The widest leaf is 1 inch 2.5 cm

[Alan_b]

Anyone know this snowdrop? It has huge elwesii leaves but they are plain green. It's not woronowii.

Because?

It could be Galanthus sp. ...

I thought sp. was short for 'species' so Galnthus sp. just denoted an unidentified snowdrop?

[bulborum]

I have the same size woronowii from wild collected bulbs
so why not woronowii ??
Roland

[mark smyth]

I thought it was not woronowii because of it's size and it's much bigger than the selection called tall form. The leaves are as big as some of my elwesii. All my woronowii have leaves that more horizontal than upright