Galanthus March 2010

[Brian Ellis]

Great to see them as ours are now going over, Dimitri.  I particularly like your G.cabardensis, a fine shape.

[Oakwood]

Thanks, Ragged Robin! Yes - snowdrop species are my passion!  

[Oakwood]

Thanks, Brian! Yes, I think this species must be hold separate from G. lagodechianus s.s. Just yesterday I was invited in Kiev University BG to identify snowdrop species and there I saw quiet tiny G. lagodechianus clumps of unknown origin with very graceful flowers.

[Brian Ellis]

Yes, I think this species must be hold separate from G. lagodechianus s.s.

I must agree Dimitri, they are quite distinct from the lagodechianus I grow.

[Oakwood]

and the last two species for today

G. gracilis, Turkey (but I didn't agree with A. Davis that turkish plants should be called G. gracilis initially described from Bulgaria)
G. elwesii Giant form, Turkey
G. elwesii var. maxima (Velen.) G. Beck. (=G. elwesii Hook. x graecus Orph. ex Boiss.) from Odessa region and Bessarabia (according to Z. Artjushenko)

[mark smyth]

Excellent selection. I now know my angustifolius is wrong. To me it looks like ordinary nivalis. Bought from a good source!

I would like you opinions on this plicatus seedling.

[Oakwood]

Mark, I could suppose that it is very difficult to see a difference between real G. angustifolius (it exists 2 form of it with clear applanate vernation on N Caucasus: with leaves 2-5 mm width and 7-10 mm width, - I have the both from wild!) and minor forms of G. nivalis. So Z. Artjushenko in her monograph erroneously refered Koss' species into G. nivalis ssp. angustifolius. But the last is more close to G. caucasicus indeed.

It is not plicatus seedlings - it is forms of pure plicatus find by me in Crimea in wild, some of them has enormous flowers like on this photo, sorry for bad quality.

[Oakwood]

Mark, there is too an anatomical future that really differs angustifolius from nivalis: the last has on cross section when microscoping the good developped air cavities (but not so enormous like in G. ikariae!), and G. angustifolius hasn't at all these cavities in mesophyll tissue.

[mark smyth]

I'll take photos of the leaves of my plant later.

Just realised I didnt post the photo of the plicatus seedling

[Ragged Robin]

Wow Mark what a fab photo of your plicatus seedling - the detail is like  HD 

[Paddy Tobin]

I have seen a plicatus seedling from Harold Mc Bride very similar to that one, Mark.

Paddy

[mark smyth]

Same source Paddy

[mark smyth]

I cant remember who gave me the photo of elwesii Wishbone for my web site. Can you PM me please?

[partisangardener]

A picture from today. Here the first nivalis and the last. A plena cultivar from may grandfathers garden. Starts often February and blooms till now.  

[bulborum]

My last Galanthus nivalis viridapice
a long spiky selection

Roland