South American Bulbous Plants 2010

[Ezeiza]

Of course, the situation is like you describe it.

The only point that I would object to is that publications that are several years (decades) old are still being sold and not cheaply.

As Maggi pointed, you need a fair sum to get even a small number of papers. It is evidently fair in case of monographs and extensive works, but short articles without illustrations are also well priced.

Thanks for the input. The topic is relevant in that sooner or later amateurs will want to know more about the plants he love and oh, surprise!

Best

[David Nicholson]

Flowering now Ipheion (Tristagma!!) uniflorum 'Charlotte Bishop', and for the second time this year! I last posted it on 12th February in the "Feb 2010 Northern Hemisphere" thread.

 

[bulborum]

Hello David

Are you sure this is Charlotte Bishop

in the time I bought mine from Washfiels nursery's in I think 1992
it was one year before it came in the plantfinder
mine flowered much pinker
this one looks more blue as mine

Roland

[Paul T]

Roland (and David),

I find that 'Charlotte Bishop' is very temperature sensitive, colour-wise, for me.  The early flowers while the temps are still cold are much paler, almost white in some cases with a bit of pink on the tips.  At it's best, the flowers are almost electric pink, but it rarely hits those high notes properly I find.  That is also assuming that what I grow here as CP actually IS CB.    David's certainly appears to have more blue in it than mine ever has (but photos do appear to often bring up colour shades that we don't normally see).  Either way, congratulations on the second flowering, David.  

[bulborum]

Hello Paul

What maybe happened
you have seen seedlings from Charlotte Bishop
The same happened with the beautiful Alberto Castillo
most for sale are seedlings from this one

Roland

[Ezeiza]

Hi Roland:

              I have asked several people not to distribute seed of 'Alberto Castillo' as inferior types has been sold under this name. Since 'Alberto Castillo' is a good offsetting variety, there is no need to propagate it from seed.

               Likewise, 'Charlotte Bishop' can only exist as offsets of the original clone. All seedlings are suspect as bees are active on them.

[Paul T]

So what ARE the exact characteristics of Charlotte Bishop?  I have no idea at all whether mine was from seedlings or from offsets of the original.  Does anyone in my sort of climate grow what they know to be the definite cultivar?  I ask re climate as I am aware that my climate is somewhat different to many on this list as I tend to get hotter summers than many, in combination with relatively mild winters compared to some here as well.  I would imagine it would behave quite differently in different places?

[bulborum]

Hello Paul

I found on the forum a picture from you
This is exact the colour as I know Charlotte Bishop
I think this is the same plant
so maybe it is just the temperature
or the season
to compare I put your pictures together
Roland

[Paul T]

Roland,

Thanks.  Nice to know the colour is right.  Mine definitely changes according to temperature, but usually pale to white-ish, no blue tones at all as in other pic.  Still, you have to also remember that David's is flowering out of season, so who knows what THOSE temperatures will do to the colour. 

[bulborum]

Probably David will show us a picture
when the right colour shows up
I can't post . Mine died many years ago
in a very heavy winter
And Washfield Nurseries don't exist any more 

Roland

[David Nicholson]

Hi Roland, Paul and Alberto, sorry not to have contributed but have been away from home for most of the last two days.

My original bulb came from Rare Plants in 2007 obviously named as "Charlotte Bishop" so I took that as read. I looked at Paul's post at the beginning of this thread before I posted and did wonder if we were talking about the same plant. But then I looked at a pic Luit posted some time ago from "The Connoissuer's Collection" which crtainly looks nearer to my plant than does Paul's. Here they are below-the first is my plant, the second The Connoisseur's.

[bulborum]

Hello David

I put them all 3 in reply 127 together
to compare
as you can see Paul's is really much darker
This is how I know Charlotte Bishop sins 17 years
Are yours darker in the normal spring flowering season ??
this will explain a lot
the flowers of my I. Wisley Blue are during the winter much paler

Roland

[Paul T]

I definitely do get flowers that look like the Connoisseur's as well, depending on time of year.  I just thought David's had more blue in it than I'd seen in mine, but as I mentioned before the camera can bring out shades that aren't visible when we look at a flower (I've seen this often enough in my own photography)

[Maggi Young]

A note copied from the PBS pages that may be of interest here......
the list of flowering plants and fungi
from Brasil is available online at:
http://floradobrasil.jbrj.gov.br/2010/     

[bulborum]

Yes Maggi

I saw the link
it is the best with good descriptions
Now the possibility to find the bulbs
and get them to Europe

Roland