Stagonospora infection - collected threads

[Brian Ellis]

Well it definitely was not on Ron Mackenzie's list, Monksilver or John Morley (and I checked the for sale by tender section too).

[annew]

Does anyone have experience of G. 'South Hayes' having 'normal' outer segments when disturbed? One I bought out of flower last year looks very ordinary.

[Anthony Darby]

I would suggest no Anne?

[mark smyth]

Anne 'South Hayes' is known to lose it's green stripe with too much twinscaling. I dont know if it will return. Is your source reliable?

[Anthony Darby]

I would still not look 'ordinary' though, Mark?

[mark smyth]

True. No photo Anne?

[KentGardener]

Does anyone have experience of G. 'South Hayes' having 'normal' outer segments when disturbed? One I bought out of flower last year looks very ordinary.

Hi Anne

when you say 'normal' - are you refering to the shape of the petals - or the colour of the outer marking?  I have read in various places that the green markings can be affected in some batches by chipping chipped bulbs (though if this has ever been proved I do not know), but I have not heard of them losing that wonderful outward curving flared shape.

As Mark says, a photo would make it easier for comment. 

regards

John

[mark smyth]

I suppose I was dreaming about 'Rosemary Burnham'. I dont think it was on the Avon list. They are asking £30 for plicatus 'Wendy' this year - now if I sold all of mine ...

Here's a taster of photos to post later

4.45pm and still light enough to drive without headlights

I tried to upload Janis' list for 2008 but the web site said no, no no! If you want it email me

[annew]

Here pix of 'South Hayes', from a very reputable source, from whom I've had no trouble in the past.

[Brian Ellis]

Hello Anne,
I hope it wasn't the same source as mine as I am still waiting in anticipation for the first flower   It doesn't look a bit like a mature one, but does it need to settle down like some do (eg Mrs Thompson)?

[mark smyth]

The petals look the wrong shape

[mark smyth]

Here are a few flowers from today. Too windy for outside so I had to photograph them in the house

elwesii 'Cedric's Prolific'
elwesii 'Comet'
elwesii ex Backhouse Garden
elwesii monostictus ex Ebay - very small mark on all flowers
elwesii monostictus ex Ebay - curled leaves like last year
elwesii 'Pyramid' - stupid name really and named by me but I think a pyramid can have three sides
'Galatea'
nivalis 'Angelique'
elwesii supplied with 'Angelique' by a known company. I did get a new 'Angelique'

[mark smyth]

Anne here's a message from Janet of 'Judy's Snowdrops'

"Yes I would say the plant is South Hayes, obviously minus the green stripe. Without the green stripe the outer petals retain the normal shape; with the stripe, due to the different cell sizes between the white and green cells, the petal gets a flatter shape, so when open it gives it that "pagoda" shape.
 
I have only known one person who has said that theirs reverted to a normal South Hayes the year after it was blind."

and a photo also of a 'South Hayes' minus the stripe

[mark smyth]

Continuing with mine from today

plicatus 'Sophie North'
plicatus 'Wendy's Gold' - not very yellow this year. I think lack of sun is to blame
'Sibertoft Manor' - very large flowers
'Sibertoft Manor- a wee mistake on one inner petal

[annew]

"I have only known one person who has said that theirs reverted to a normal South Hayes the year after it was blind."
Does that mean it's unlikely that mine will become true again?
It's very disappointing as I was hoping to breed from it this year.