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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #105 on: May 12, 2010, 10:22:08 AM »
Roland, you can blame me for Oleg's "onion famrer" nickname.... I gave h it to him when he was one of the early forumists to decalre his love for alliums!  :)
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #106 on: May 12, 2010, 12:58:46 PM »
I do grow alliums. Roland. And like them a lot. As usual Maggi was quite inventive with the nick, I adore it. The earliest onions are still to flower here later this week, I think.
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #107 on: May 12, 2010, 09:58:53 PM »
And where would we be without onions? As a vegetable I use them in my kitchen most days, if not quite EVERY day. Life without onions is unimaginable. :D (I actually mean as a cook, not a vegetable ???)
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #108 on: May 15, 2010, 09:40:57 AM »
This is my grandiflorum double.
It was a gift from a fellow SRGC and Trillium-L listmember, who visited me a couple of weeks ago.

It is now flowering beautifully in the garden.

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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #109 on: May 16, 2010, 03:57:56 PM »
Hi

I thought some of you trillium junkies might be interested in this little oddity which appeared in my garden

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One stem, six leaves, one flower with five petals and one with four.

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This is the normal flower.
This was sold to me as T. erectum cream which it clearly is not as normal flowers hang below leaves. Any thoughts?

Steven
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2010, 07:52:29 PM »
Hi

I thought some of you trillium junkies might be interested in this little oddity which appeared in my garden

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One stem, six leaves, one flower with five petals and one with four.

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This is the normal flower.
This was sold to me as T. erectum cream which it clearly is not as normal flowers hang below leaves. Any thoughts?

Steven


Hello Steven,

Sometimes one gets these freaks once in a while. I don't have these odd Trilliums but this year I had many Trilliums with only two petals. In normal years they all had the regular three. I don't know what the cause is.

Your erectum beige looks like an erectum. I did not quite understand what you mean regarding hanging below the leaves. Do you mean that your's is now hanging below the leaves, but should be above or do you mean that they are now flowering in an erect way above the leaves (which is normal), but should be below the leaves?

Sometimes one or two of many of my erectum decide to flower below the leaves for a change too, but the next year they will flower normal. Therefore next year's growing and flowering season will give you more information.


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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #111 on: May 17, 2010, 06:19:27 AM »
With the extra leaves and the double-headed flower - as distinct from a double flower - perhaps this is the Trillium version of fasciation?
« Last Edit: May 19, 2010, 09:42:09 PM by Lesley Cox »
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #112 on: May 18, 2010, 03:32:13 PM »
At last also my Trilliums havs started.
First my oldest clump of grandiflorum.
Angustipetalum has had three stalks for at least the last four years but shows no sign of clumping.
Tchonoskii is perhaps not the most large flowered white.
The next picture is a couple of seedlings the fare one is the green/yellowish type of erectum which seems to come true from seed.
Trillium undulatum is not too easy in my place and demands a cool situation.
I believe that the last is albidum but I am not sure.
I pass on the name of the red one. I got it under wrong name - perhaps erectum but it has sulcate sepals  ???
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #113 on: May 18, 2010, 03:40:27 PM »
Göte, nice series of Trillium.  Your nice grandiflorum patch looks like a short-stemmed form, how tall does it grow?  And congratulations on T. undulatum, it is notoriously difficult species, albeit a bautiful one.  It is native here, usually found in cool mountainous woodlands... I've seen it in the mountains of White Mountains of New Hampshire.
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #114 on: May 18, 2010, 04:21:51 PM »
A first time bloom on Trillium gracile today, this plant from Texas (thanks Aaron).  It's rather neat and trim, looking somewhat like T. foetidissimum, but without a foetid scent.

The next one has garnered no comments so far when I've showed it, not sure why, as it is a striking species with very large showy red blooms, the uniquely shaped full flowers 8 cm across... T. vaseyi. Known as Sweet Wakerobin, it is sweet secnted (not detectable on this cold day today).  

Now ready to open, the bud teasing me for a couple weeks, the suspense is killing me, a hybrid between T. vaseyi x T. grandiflorum blooming for the first time since I played around with pollen some years back.  The scenario is perfect, both parents are in view in my images, with the giant baby in the middle.  The foliage on the hybrid looks like like T. grandiflorum, just taller and much bigger, but the large, rather elongate downturned bud is clearly that of T. vaseyi influence.  Today, some flower color is peeking through, mostly dark red but some white is evident too!  Stay tuned.

T. vaseyi is well known to hybridize with T. rugelii, which I also grow, but I had wondered if it would cross with grandiflorum... evidently so.


Trillium vaseyi distribution map and info:
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=TRVA2
http://utc.usu.edu/factsheets/trillium/trillium_vaseyi/trillium_vaseyi.htm

Image:
http://plants.usda.gov/java/largeImage?imageID=trva2_003_ahp.tif

Trillium vaseyi (Sweet Wakerobin) in Flora of North America:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=242102017
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #115 on: May 18, 2010, 04:40:55 PM »
Göte, nice series of Trillium.  Your nice grandiflorum patch looks like a short-stemmed form, how tall does it grow?  And congratulations on T. undulatum, it is notoriously difficult species, albeit a bautiful one.  It is native here, usually found in cool mountainous woodlands... I've seen it in the mountains of White Mountains of New Hampshire.
Well thanks
I will try to remember to measure. I do not trust my guess. This clone is a clumper. I have quite a number of them (for being in sweden  ;) )
Cheers
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #116 on: May 18, 2010, 07:09:28 PM »
At last also my Trilliums havs started...Trillium undulatum is not too easy in my place and demands a cool situation.

T. undulatum is generally considered ungrowable, so your flowering of it is truly remarkable.

From what the references say, I've gathered that it demands extremely acidic, boggy conditions, but your remark about needing a cool situation makes me think it does not like warmth at any time. Rather like Cyclamen purpurascens, which is a roaring success in Chicago with its cold winters, but an abject failure in my  mild climate.

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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #117 on: May 18, 2010, 07:53:36 PM »
Trillium flexipes is the last to flower here
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #118 on: May 18, 2010, 11:21:32 PM »
I wonder what the 'Holy Grail' is for trillium lovers? Here's 'Jenny Rhodes'.
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Re: Trillium 2010
« Reply #119 on: May 19, 2010, 07:22:39 AM »
Probably a fast growing dark red Jenny Rhodes  ;D

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