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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #345 on: November 16, 2010, 08:37:46 PM »
A few more (the last one was already posted later in the season by Luit :))


Stephen,

the Prunus laurocerasus cultivar I know under the name 'Camelliflora'. We have these cultivar in the nursery I work.
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #346 on: November 16, 2010, 09:34:05 PM »
Thanks John and Mark, Staphylea, the Bladder Nut. That's why I somehow knew it :)
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #347 on: November 17, 2010, 09:17:41 AM »
A few more (the last one was already posted later in the season by Luit :))


Stephen,

the Prunus laurocerasus cultivar I know under the name 'Camelliflora'. We have these cultivar in the nursery I work.

Thanks, Uli - I see now from my notes that I had put a question mark by this one - the plant label was worn out. However, googling this name it seems that Camelliifolia is correct
« Last Edit: November 17, 2010, 09:28:27 AM by Stephenb »
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #348 on: November 17, 2010, 08:04:06 PM »
A few more (the last one was already posted later in the season by Luit :))


the rubus is quite interesting!

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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #349 on: November 24, 2010, 11:01:13 PM »
Living in a very windy area near the coast I don't see any leaves on shrubs and trees here.
Except for Liquidambar, which is the only small tree giving some color in the garden.

Liquidambar styraciflua Gum Ball                 
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #350 on: December 18, 2010, 10:11:27 PM »
seeing stephen's paulownia earlier made me remember a question i have for john weagle----

john, you apparently grew a paulownia tomentosa variety from seed that was donated to the historic garden here in annapolis royal. that has now flowered for the past two years and is a healthy specimen.

however, here is my question/quandary....it looks in all respects like a straight p. tomentosa to me, although it was *apparently* grown out as P. tomentosa 'Coreana' (hybrid name, not ssp. or variety). don't you hate this? glad the rules were changed to disallow this sort of plant naming.

OR

were your seedlings P. tomentosa (of Korea origin)????
everyone around here is confused and I would like to help get the nomenclature sorted out.


 
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #351 on: December 19, 2010, 09:48:31 AM »
Mr. Krüssmann wright in his book about this cultivar: 'Coreana' only a clone from Gardens in Korea. Described by Uyeki in 1925 as P. coreana. Mr. Hu, Shiu-ying classify the species back to P. tomentosa in his work A monograph of the genus Paulownia in Quart. Jour. Taiwan Museum 12, 1-54, 1959.
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #352 on: December 19, 2010, 02:26:11 PM »
thank you, Uli.

the cultivar was described as "leaves tinted yellow, wooly beneath" (which the clone here does not have).

i guessed that this plant was probably grown from seed of Korean origins--which might have made it hardier---but
it seems that even in mild Nova Scotia, this was not enough, as i was told that the tree is decades old (kept getting severly knocked back each winter). only in the past few years (global warming?) has it finally survived to reach blooming size.

i have seen it in the American south where it has become a noxious weed.

back in Ontario, i grew it in the garden as a re-sprouting stool for its tropical foliage.

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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #353 on: December 19, 2010, 02:57:44 PM »
Mr. Krüssmann wright in his book about this cultivar: 'Coreana' only a clone from Gardens in Korea. Described by Uyeki in 1925 as P. coreana. Mr. Hu, Shiu-ying classify the species back to P. tomentosa in his work A monograph of the genus Paulownia in Quart. Jour. Taiwan Museum 12, 1-54, 1959.

Indeed.  Paulownia tomentosa 'Coreana' would indicate a selected named clone of tomentosa and not suggest hybridity at all.   P. 'Coreana' would be a different matter but then any interspecific hybrid would have probably been named with an x ______ 'Coreana'.  I will have to dig through my records back to the late 80's I think, it was around the time Heptacodium became popular but had another Genus name which always escapes me.

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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #354 on: December 19, 2010, 03:10:15 PM »
I will have to dig through my records back to the late 80's I think, it was around the time Heptacodium became popular but had another Genus name which always escapes me.

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John, I do not know of any earlier genus name for the monotypic Heptacodium.  I do know that in earlier days, this popular tree was first named Heptacodium jasminoides, then was later renamed H. miconioides.
http://arnoldia.arboretum.harvard.edu/pdf/articles/809.pdf
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #355 on: December 19, 2010, 06:34:04 PM »
I will have to dig through my records back to the late 80's I think, it was around the time Heptacodium became popular but had another Genus name which always escapes me.

johnw

John, I do not know of any earlier genus name for the monotypic Heptacodium.  I do know that in earlier days, this popular tree was first named Heptacodium jasminoides, then was later renamed H. miconioides.
http://arnoldia.arboretum.harvard.edu/pdf/articles/809.pdf

Aha  - So it was H. jasminoides, NO WONDER.

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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #356 on: December 20, 2010, 05:51:15 AM »
The previous owner of our property planted a number of Catalpa bignonioides - 3 of which we moved successfully to where it suited us.
This one appears to be the clone with a purple cast to the young foliage and is slowly making a decent sized tree.
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #357 on: December 20, 2010, 07:29:49 AM »
Fine trees, fermi! I have always wanted Catalpa in my garden but the summers here are not warm enough. They grow in gardens in the southermost parts of Norway though.
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #358 on: December 20, 2010, 08:18:41 AM »
Here are some trees I like:

1) Mountain birch. These trees have been destroyed by the larvae of birch moth. That makes them a little trollish!

2) and 3) A tree planted in the yard is called a "tuntre" in Norwegian (litterally "yard-tree"). What's the English term for that? Here from the tiny island of Stråholmen, Southern Norway.
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Re: Trees in parks and gardens 2010
« Reply #359 on: December 20, 2010, 11:10:15 AM »
Trond, given the capacity of many UK citizens to plant totally unsuitable forest trees in their gardens/yards, I suppose the most appropriate English term for such tress would be  nuisance trees, because they are too big, cause damage to nearby drains and houses etc!  ;D ;D ;)
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