We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Experiment for growing mix  (Read 4931 times)

Neil

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
  • Country: england
  • Hardy Orchid Grower
    • The Hardy Orchid Society
Experiment for growing mix
« on: June 29, 2010, 05:20:29 PM »
I have been doing a lot of experiments on the soil mixture that I am using to grow my orchids in.  Here is the results  of one them

I had 2 one year old tubers of Orchis anthropophorum planted up, last summer,  one was in a mix of 50% of Melcourt Sylvamix® Potting and 50% super coarse perlite, with Rootgrow added to the mix, the other was in a mix of 50% John Innes number 2 and 50% perlite and the rootgrow.  Both tubers when they started where near enough the same size, about 10mm, sorry I can't find the photo of them that I took last year, but the result was the one the in the Melcourt Sylvamix® Potting did a lot better than the other one. :D
Interested in Hardy Orchids then join The Hardy Orchid Society
Wanted Hardy Orchid Seed please pm me if you have some that you can spare
Sussex, England, UK Zone 9a

daveyp1970

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1620
  • Country: england
  • bulbs and corms you've got to love them.
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 05:24:53 PM »
Niel where can i get hold of the sylvamix.
tuxford
Nottinghamshire

Neil

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
  • Country: england
  • Hardy Orchid Grower
    • The Hardy Orchid Society
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 05:30:26 PM »
Niel where can i get hold of the sylvamix.

http://www.melcourt.co.uk/g-ordering.html

I got mine from http://www.fargro.co.uk/ which is about 30 miles from me in Littlehampton, they have a cash counter which is quite handy.
I think it was about £6.70 plus VAT for 70 litres
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 05:33:55 PM by neil »
Interested in Hardy Orchids then join The Hardy Orchid Society
Wanted Hardy Orchid Seed please pm me if you have some that you can spare
Sussex, England, UK Zone 9a

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44777
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2010, 05:48:22 PM »
Good result there, Neil.
Was there more top growth on the larger tuber as well ?
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

Neil

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
  • Country: england
  • Hardy Orchid Grower
    • The Hardy Orchid Society
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2010, 06:08:22 PM »
Yes it ended up with 5 or 6 leaves the other managed 2.
Interested in Hardy Orchids then join The Hardy Orchid Society
Wanted Hardy Orchid Seed please pm me if you have some that you can spare
Sussex, England, UK Zone 9a

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44777
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2010, 07:41:32 PM »
 Hmm, all round better growth then   :D
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1547
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2010, 12:00:21 PM »
Hi Neil,

would love to try this. Littlehampton is also my nearest branch of Fargro's, but 75 miles away. Maybe I'll combine it with a trip to the seaside ;) ;)

Just a little need for clarification: You say you used Sylvamix Potting, which is the PH neutral version. Fargro just told me over the phone that they only sell Sylvamix Natural, which is the high lime version. I am confused. Please help. ??? ??? ???
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Anthony Darby

  • Bug Buff & Punster
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9647
  • Country: nz
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2010, 02:13:53 PM »
Very interesting. Each tuber is a dependent on the present year's growth, rather like potatoes, so the bigger the plant the bigger the new tuber. The old tuber shrivels to nothing.
Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution"
http://www.dunblanecathedral.org.uk/Choir/The-Choir.html

TC

  • Roving Reporter
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1142
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 02:34:49 PM »
For Scottish growers it is unavailable here.  I contacted Clydeside Growers in Kirkmuirhill - the only Melcourt distributors in Scotland -who do not stock it and have no plans to do so.
Tom Cameron
Ayr, West of Scotland

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1547
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 06:07:36 PM »
Hi,
it appears I was wrong when I said the Sylvamix Natural was high lime. I concluded that when I read on their blurb that it is not suitable for acid loving plants. Since then I had a call back from Catherine Dawson of Melcourt, and she told me that the description was incorrect, in fact, neither product was recommended for acid loving plants. The difference between the two is this:
Sylvamix Natural is organic (with a certificate of the Soil Association), and Sylvamix Potting is not.

I think I'll buy a couple of bags. If anyone wishes to share, please email me and we can come to some arrangement.

Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

Neil

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
  • Country: england
  • Hardy Orchid Grower
    • The Hardy Orchid Society
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2010, 06:48:40 AM »
Oh that is interesting Maren. I need to get hold  of Fargo and give them a telling off for giving me the wrong information and selling it to me as Potting, shame I haven't got the bag any more or emails from them.  Anyway it also works well on strawberries. Best crop I have had in years!


Interested in Hardy Orchids then join The Hardy Orchid Society
Wanted Hardy Orchid Seed please pm me if you have some that you can spare
Sussex, England, UK Zone 9a

Maren

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1547
  • Maren & Pln Tongariro
    • Heritage Orchids
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2010, 10:10:09 PM »
Hi Neil,
hard to tell what it is you got. The Melcourt lady said that Fargro have bought the entire range of Sylvamix, but the young girl I spoke to at Fargro didn't know what they had. It's nice to know that you did so well with it, whatever it was. :) :)
Maren in Marlow, Buckinghamshire, United Kingdom - Zone 8

http://www.heritageorchids.co.uk/

goofy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 327
  • Country: de
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 06:05:24 PM »
hey,
just want to show you, what is POSSIBLE
with NEUDOHUM potting mix from Germany,
for me a very similar material like the Silvamix.

I recieved that photo last days from my buddy
who grows his terrestrial orchids in that material.

The pic shows a tuber of Orchis italica
( it is not a childs hand )
AND its NOT A POTATO  ;)

enjoy
« Last Edit: July 19, 2010, 06:18:07 PM by goofy »

Peter Maguire

  • Camera-toting Gadabout - and new Grandad!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1043
  • Country: gb
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2010, 08:40:20 PM »
That's an impressive tuber  :o.
I wonder what effect it has on flowering - presumably as you still have one growing point, you get one flowering spike?

Incidentally, Neil, who started this thread, has crossposted his photo into a topic about Neudohum on the terrestrial orchid forum: http://forum.terrorchid.org/viewtopic.php?t=1012

It makes for quite interesting reading concerning the use of benficial fungi in terrestrial orchid composts.
Peter Maguire
Newcastle upon Tyne, U.K.

"I've killed so many plants. I walked into a nursery once and my face was on a wanted poster." - Rita Rudner

http://www.pmfoto.co.uk/

Neil

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
  • Country: england
  • Hardy Orchid Grower
    • The Hardy Orchid Society
Re: Experiment for growing mix
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2010, 10:15:52 PM »
That is definitely an impressive tuber



Incidentally, Neil, who started this thread, has crossposted his photo into a topic about Neudohum on the terrestrial orchid forum: http://forum.terrorchid.org/viewtopic.php?t=1012

It makes for quite interesting reading concerning the use of benficial fungi in terrestrial orchid composts.

Regarding that article does anyone know a source for lignite in this country?

Interested in Hardy Orchids then join The Hardy Orchid Society
Wanted Hardy Orchid Seed please pm me if you have some that you can spare
Sussex, England, UK Zone 9a

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal