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Unknown Lilium
« on: July 04, 2010, 02:29:21 PM »
Received this plant as Lilium nanum, which it obviously is not:

it's only 15 cm in height, unfortunately a blackbird broke the stem just when it was flowering: so here a picture of the flower which was damaged by the same bird
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 03:11:15 PM »
Lilium tigrinum
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 04:40:55 PM »
Thanks Maggi, that's it.  :-*
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 04:42:51 PM »
Maggie your on fire ;D
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 04:48:17 PM »
Although, isn't 15 cm very low for L. tigrinum? Could it be L. davidii?
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 04:59:20 PM »
Well, it could be.... but L. davidii can make 1.5m also! Very variable these things!! :-X
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 05:07:32 PM »
Is there a distinguishing difference between tigrinum and davidii?  ???
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 05:15:24 PM »
Well, L. tigrinum makes stem bulbils and davidii can be stoloniferous.....
I think some Forumists have  been discussing this lately........
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 06:00:44 PM »
Thanks Maggi,

I'll keep it as a Lilium tigrinum/lancifolium/davidii thingy.  ;)
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 06:05:36 PM »
Thanks Maggi,
I'll keep it as a Lilium tigrinum/lancifolium/davidii thingy.  ;) 

Keep it as a Lilium lancifolium/davidii thingy as L tigrinum is synonymous with L lancifolium (sorry Maggi, but it's not exactly a new change  ::))

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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 06:08:52 PM »
(sorry Maggi, but it's not exactly a new change  Roll Eyes)


 I know, I know.... but thank goodness for you knowing these things, Diane.... heaven help us if we had to rely on my naming!!
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2010, 07:45:10 AM »
L lancifolium usually has a less vivid colour and slightly more flattish tepals than the photo. My guess is some form of davidii. Lancifolium should, at the time of flowering, have stem bulbils that turn entirely black before falling off.
The most common lancifolium is triploid and does not set seed. Furthermore it is usually infested with a virus that can be transmitted to other lilies.
Therefore seed grown (diploids) are very valuable since virus is not transmitted through the seed.
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2010, 04:06:41 PM »
Thanks for the additional info, Gote

no stem bulbils, so it probably is L. davidii.
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Re: Unknown Lilium
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2010, 10:55:48 PM »
Another lily for id.  It is growing in the same pot as Lilium lankongense.  The pics are from 2008 but both are flowering this year. the leaves are longer and narrower than lankongense.  Leaves of both can be seen in the picture. 
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