Allium 2010

[Stephenb]

...and what about this one. I was given this as Allium yunnanense when I visited the Tromsø botanical garden last year. It seems this is a synonym of Allium mairei (FOC) which it most definitely isn't. It looks like a form of chives, but the flower scape (only one so far) is nodding.

[arisaema]

I'm now getting a bit fed up with farreri - The dwarf cernuum is definitely this, as is the wallichii I mentioned above. Since then I have 2(!) more farreris!  Allium delicatulum (SRGC seed) and Allium sibthorpianum (AGS). I also recieved farreri as A. roseum a few years ago...

I bought A. callimischon from a small nursery last year, and received a pot of A. farreri in full flower... Allium at least are reasonably quick to flower, it's slightly more annyoing to have nursed Iris on for 5 years only to discover that every single one of the 5 different species you sowed are I. setosa I never bother with either genus from the seed exchanges anymore, unless I know (of) the donator.

(Will give my A. forrestii a bit of fertilizer so it bulks up, looks like it could prove popular... )

[Stephenb]

Yes, you have a good point...

Please put me on the waiting list, please (you want a cyaneum, perhaps?)

[arisaema]

(you want a cyaneum, perhaps?)

...or a white-flowered chive!

[Stephenb]

or both....

[I.S.]

 Hello to everybody who has love with Alliums!
I also have some pics from European part of Turkey. I hope to find correct name.
1-Allium guttatum sbsp.
But I am not sure about subspecies guttatum, sardoum or dalmaticum!!

[I.S.]

 .and my second one.
2-Allium flavum subsp. flavum var. flavum

[I.S.]

 I have a few more but I have no idea about these!..
 5 and 6 taken in differnt locations.

[TheOnionMan]

Yes, I assumed they had made a mistake as well, it's not the first time... Another problem I've noticed (with Nomocharis) is that they don't always amend the keys when reducing plants into synonyms.

Re: the lovely A. aff. cyaneum - have you checked the descriptions of the two synonyms listed: Allium hugonianum and A. szechuanicum?

No, I haven't done that yet, but I realize it is worth doing.  Example, I received a plant of Allium taquetii H. Léveillé from a Dr. Lee at the US National Arboterum. Of course A. taquetii is a synonym of A. thunbergii.  While the autumn purple flowers with long exserted stamens are just like A. thunbergii, the resemblance stops there, as the leaves are completely different, as is the bulb growth, the leaves are completely flat and yellow-green, not the normal semi-fistular trigonous or strongly keeled leaves of A. thunbergii.  I think the A. thunbergii/sacculiferum/virgunculae/chinense clan needs a total taxonomic overhaul.

[TheOnionMan]

...and what about this one. I was given this as Allium yunnanense when I visited the Tromsø botanical garden last year. It seems this is a synonym of Allium mairei (FOC) which it most definitely isn't. It looks like a form of chives, but the flower scape (only one so far) is nodding.

Stephen, if you keep this up, with so many Allium species coming up as misnomers, you will win another cupie doll

Your "yunnanense" looks like a very good white chive form, probably more showy than the real A. mairei (syns. amabile, yunnanense, pyrrhorrhizum).  I do get forms (rarely) of A. schoenoprasum that display lax or semi-nodding flower heads, I have photos someplace, I'll see if I can dig them up.

[TheOnionMan]

Hello to everybody who has love with Alliums!
I also have some pics from European part of Turkey. I hope to find correct name.
1-Allium guttatum sbsp.
But I am not sure about subspecies guttatum, sardoum or dalmaticum!!

Ibrahim, thanks for posting some intriguing allium photos.   It is late here, but soon I will be getting to these when I can.

[Stephenb]

Stephen, if you keep this up, with so many Allium species coming up as misnomers, you will win another cupie doll

Thanks for the confirmation, Mark.

If we tracked down the sources of these misnomers, we should send cupie dolls to them (receiving one of these would make me even more unhappy...). I will name this good form Allium schoenoprasum "Cupie".

Do any of the seed exchanges have a system of reporting errors? I know the Swedish seed exchage (STA) does.

[olegKon]

Some more alliums today (hope they are not misnamed)
1. Allium pskemense
2. Allium myrianthum
3. Allium senescens
4. Allium paniculatum (in the evening sun, as my camera doesn't seem to like the heat and bright sunshine we have been having for 5 weeks running)

[I.S.]

   I have some more pics taken this week. I think they are,
Allium paniculatum subsp. fuscum
Allium guttatum subsp. guttatum.

[TheOnionMan]

Hello to everybody who has love with Alliums!
I also have some pics from European part of Turkey. I hope to find correct name.
1-Allium guttatum sbsp.
But I am not sure about subspecies guttatum, sardoum or dalmaticum!!

Ibrahim, this appears to be A. guttatum ssp. sardoum, based on having white flowers with a colored medium stripe, versus an orbicular blotch as so well illustrated in you A. guttatum ssp. guttatum.  It's a most handsome inflorescence with those purple anthers, thanks for showing such good closeup detail views at two stages of anthesis, and the bulb.  Subspecies dalmaticum has pink to purple tepals.