Erythronium ID

[Ray]

This is a pic of a pot of what is supposed to be E howellii,some have yellow,brownish or green markinds to the back of the petals.The one I would like an ID for is the green backed one.thanks bye Ray

[Maggi Young]

http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2008/230108/log.html  close-up of flowers,last pic in Log.

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010May051273067429BULB_LOG_18.pdf for more info....
E. citrinum tends to have more "shallow flowers is side elevation than howellii  but
you will see that  it is the auricles that are the defining feature. There are clear close ups in the Log showing the differences . 

[Ray]

Hi Maggi,thanks for that,will have a good look tomorrow and see if I can find these auricles.bye Ray

[Ray]

Hi Maggi,after looking at your links its back to the drawing board,the other flowers in the pot have yellow anthers. bye Ray

[Maggi Young]

Ray, for interest, can you post some pics of the inside of the various flowers?
ID can be tricky on these guys......they may be hybrids but, you know, while anther colour is sometimes given as a diagnostic, t it has been found that that is not always as firm a reason as first thought. There  can  be variations! 

Wonderful life, isn't it, trying to track these things down? 

[Paul T]

Ray,

How are the flowers arranged?  Could it be multiscapoideum?  If so, each flower appears to have a separate stem, with multiple flowers from a bulb.  They actually branch below the surface, so they are technically one scape, but that isn't how it looks.  I have them in flower at the moment as well and the leaves match that, although my flowers have a bit more in the way of throat markings.  I don't grow howellii so can't compare it.

[Ray]

Here is some pics of another one in the same pot.bye Ray