Crocus: October 2010

[Thomas Huber]

Some views from my latest rockgarden

[Thomas Huber]

-12: Standing together: Crocus medius, kotschyanus, speciosus and ssp xantholaimos
-16: Crocus kotschyanus mixed with Colchicum and Cyclamen
-25: Colchicum speciosum, Cyclamen hederifolium....

-01,02,19,44: My first rockgarden, mainly planted with speciosus and kotschyanus different forms

[Thomas Huber]

... and the rest:

[Janis Ruksans]

- my favourite speciosus - I was sure it is 'Artabir' because it has the dark feathering and
the beautiful scent that is described from this cultivar. But it doesn't fit with the photo
that Janis showed this morning   At least I love it and it's standing much stronger than
all the other speciosus flowers I have.

My ARTABIR has strongly suffused back of outer flower segments - you can see suffusion on bud between both flowers. It really is different from yours Thomas. I don't know who is right. My description made in 80-ies of last century fits with my plants. Then it originated from Van Tubergen. Didn't cheched scent nor then, nor now.
Janis

[krisderaeymaeker]

Some views from my latest rockgarden

Are you sure it is your rockgarden and not a mountain somewhere in Europe Thomas 
It looks very good and the bulbs seems to do very well .

[Janis Ruksans]

Today again for some hours was nice sun and, regardless of fewer, I can't withstand and stepped out of room for some pictures in greenhouse.
The first four is the most beautifully Crocus laevigatus form, with deeply striped back of outer segments. I got this stock by wish of Jim Archibald. I never before saw so deeply colored laevigatus. Thank you, Jim...
Next is wild Crocus ochroleucus from Israel. I got few small corms this autumn and was very surprised when one of them bloomed, so small they were.
Crocus mathewii in this entry is presented by form from Gothenburg BG and it is named by Karin Pearson, who found this beauty in mountains of Turkey
This form of Crocus cancellatus mazziaricus came from Gothenburg BG, too
The last picture is from plant received and labeled as Crocus cancellatus. I suppose that correct name must be Crocus robertianus, although other stocks of this beautiful species still didn't started blooming. Tunic of this is registered as reticulated,so I have no other choice for name although flower segments are narrower than in my other stocks of robertianus.
Janis

[krisderaeymaeker]

Wow  !!!
Hardly to find a favorite Janis ,but the laevigatus is fantastic !

[Oron Peri]

Janis

I can just echo Kris, they are superb.
Some years ago i have seen a few dark  laevigatus, quite similar to yours on Crete, i hope to see them again in a few days.

[Tony Willis]

Thomas and Janis lovely pictures and great to see,thank you

[Hans A.]

Fantastic Crocus Janis and Thomas!
Thomas, you are living in really beautyful landscape! Congratulations

[Hagen Engelmann]

Janis, your autumn crocus are eyecatcher.
Thomas you must live in a real crocusworld.

[I.S.]

  It is very pleasant to see on my screen that autumn show has been strated,
  Janis, what I believe, your pallasii from Kubbe pass is pallasii diaspathaceus! do you see any signal of pallasii turcicus on it? (few broad leaves and biger corms) The pale style should be a feature for diaspathaceus!
  Thomas, I wonder how often you replant your crocuses?

[Thomas Huber]

Are you sure it is your rockgarden and not a mountain somewhere in Europe Thomas 

Hmm, I WAS sure - until the moment when you asked 


Janis, as always in any speciosus cultivar questions the answer will remain a secret due to lack of
reference photos or paintings. I also cant be sure that mine is the true form, all I have is the
description of the Dix/Van Tubergen catalogue where Artabir is described as:

speciosus M.B. 'Artabir' Selected at VT's from material received from Caucasus.
Flowers clear methyl-blue with deep methyl-blue veins. Inner segments lighter
coloured than outer segments. Throat shaded creamy, perianth tubes white
overlaid with a tinge of methyl-blue. Stigma-branches finely divided, deep orpiment-orange.
Stamens deep yellow. Faintly perfumed.

Cassiope and Conquerer are described as 'very large' so I guess that means, that Artabir
is smaller than these.

My plants were selected from a mixed stock of speciosus bought in 2003 from Dix. These
small, strong and scented flowers caught my eye and I decided to separate them. Looked
like they have been cultivated in the past and then mixed all together 


Ibrahim, I only replant my crocusses if the baskets are overcrowded. Last year I had many
spare corms and planted them in my latest rockgarden.

[Boyed]

Still nicely blooms various Crocus speciosus, just showed noses xantholaimos and Iranian forms - those I will show you later, but now forms from Armenia (Gornus) and Abant lake in Turkey. Blooms the largest flowering cv. Artabir.
From Crocus serotinus for the first time with me flowers white form 'El Torcal' and from Sierra Nevada got as subsp. serotinus but by corm tunic is nothing else that common salzmannii. So I'm still looking for true type subsp. serotinus - May be some of you have and can offer for me next season?

Janis, it should be crocus speciosus Goris, not Gornus. It was collected near the surroundings of town of Goris (Sothern Armenia).
Did you like crocus serotinus salzmanii vigorous form, which I sent you 2 years ago?

[Maggi Young]

Still nicely blooms various Crocus speciosus, just showed noses xantholaimos and Iranian forms - those I will show you later, but now forms from Armenia (Gornus) and Abant lake in Turkey. Blooms the largest flowering cv. Artabir.
From Crocus serotinus for the first time with me flowers white form 'El Torcal' and from Sierra Nevada got as subsp. serotinus but by corm tunic is nothing else that common salzmannii. So I'm still looking for true type subsp. serotinus - May be some of you have and can offer for me next season?

Janis, it should be crocus speciosus Goris, not Gornus. It was collected near the surroundings of town of Goris (Sothern Armenia).

 Yes, 'Goris'! Thank goodness we got it right in the IRG!
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2010Oct061286379431IRG9September2010.pdf