Cyclamen 2011

[Gerry Webster]

It can't be 'Tilebarn Jan' because it wasn't vegetatively propagated. If I was a Nurseryman maybe it would be called Cyclamen mirabile 'Dave's Form' Highly likely my plant will never be vegetatively propogated so perhaps I should label it simply as Cyclamen mirabile and just regard it as a rather nice form?

David, not necessarily true. One of my best friends is taxonomist and co-author of the International Code of Nomenclature of Cultivated plants. Contrary to what I thought he told me that cultivars CAN be propagated by seeds as long as the traits that defined the original cultivar are still present. Cultivars are plants or a group of plants that are selected for specific and unique traits. If the seedlings of the original cultivar are identical in appearance to the parent and have maintained the characteristics that defined the cultivar it is allowed to maintain the cultivar name for the seedlings.

I also used to believe - apparently wrongly - that cultivars had to be vegetatively propagated in order to be entitled to the name.

Incidentally, The International Code of Nomenclature of Cultivated Plants (8th edn, 2009) is now available online. I downloaded a PDF copy today but, unfortunately, cannot remember how I found it. I think it may have been via the RHS website.

[Maggi Young]

Incidentally, The International Code of Nomenclature of Cultivated Plants (8th edn, 2009) is now available online. I downloaded a PDF copy today but, unfortunately, cannot remember how I found it. I think it may have been via the RHS website.

It can be downloaded here: http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf    ...all 206 pages of it 

[Gerry Webster]

Thanks Maggi - you are a genius!

[Tony Willis]

Having watched the comments on naming here are some of my Cyclamen mirable which may cause a few problems.

The first two show a plant with very different shaped flowers to those normally seen,large and cup shaped.Should this be a new species?

The third and fourth are shown using my naming system

third is white with pink nose

fourth is white with slight touch of pink in nose

I selfed the fourth and it has produced one seedling and this is picture five which has one pink flower and two white ones all with pink noses.it does not change colour as the flower ages. There are more flowers to come and it will be interesting to see how these develop. Perhaps more interesting,or not, would be to hear how a taxonomist would describe it.

On another note I have been raising seedlings from my own plants of this species for over ten years and have never had one with pink in the leaves. I have also seen many plants in the wild and never observed this either,although I know members of the Cyclamen Society have reported plants in the wild showing this characteristic. This year three of my one year old seedlings have produced leaves with good pink markings in them.

[ashley]

All very beautiful Tony.  The first one is extraordinary.

[Maggi Young]

I'm very taken with your mirabiles.... the flower shapes are certainly not what one would usually expect, but , by jove, they are lovely. The broad open flowers are a delight. Every one a gem... you must be really peased 

[Tony Willis]

I'm very taken with your mirabiles.... the flower shapes are certainly not what one would usually expect, but , by jove, they are lovely. The broad open flowers are a delight. Every one a gem... you must be really peased 

Ashley thank you

Maggi

I am pleased, apart from the seedling, they all originate from seed I collected in 2001. I have distributed seed from the broad flowered one but have never heard any results as to if it comes true.

[David Nicholson]

Lovely forms Tony. I must have another look at mine, this time with a hand lense, the pink on yours is far more obvious than it is on mine.

[Tony Willis]

Lovely forms Tony. I must have another look at mine, this time with a hand lense, the pink on yours is far more obvious than it is on mine.

David

remember mine is not supposed to be 'forma niveum' it is just one I raised from some seed I collected myself. I labelled the pot white so I know which one it is in my collection,knowing it has a bit of pink on the nose.

[David Nicholson]

I had a look with a hand lense and there is not as much pink as I had first thought. What I was seeing was the darker shade of the calyx showing through the petals, having said that there is a slight, very slight, hint of pink on the nose of the plant.

[Guff]

1-5 Hederifolium bed

[goofy]

hello again.
after some months I am back here. Had a computer crash.
so was not here for some time

insofar here are with some delay 4 pics of my Cyclamen purpurascens:

Cyclamen purpurascens


Cycl. purpurascens cv. Green Ice (Bravenboer)


Cycl. purpurascens cv. 2000


Cycl. purpurascens cv. albiflora


enjoy.

[fleurbleue]

Nice foliages Goofy 

[Maggi Young]

Hi Dieter, good to see you, and your photos, back in the Forum.
Lovely C. purpurascens... one of my favourites.

[Roma]

Interesting mirabiles, Tony.  I have one very old plant which I suppose was wild collected.  It as bought in Woolworths as hederifolium, late 70's I think.  I have three seedlings from it.  None of them show any pink in the leaves.

The following is my deepest pink Cyclamen mirabile  so far.  It is one of 7 seedlings sown in 2007 and potted on a few weeks ago.  The parent is one I showed earlier which I grew from SRGC seed as 'Tilebarn Nicholas' but does not have the correct markings.  I call it 'Thin Red Line' to distinguish it from the others.

Another look at the parent