Cyclamen 2011

[Tony Willis]

Alex a nice pale one,very late flowering,mine have now finished.

[johnw]

Cyclamen kuznetzovii, my sole survivor has finally flowered and I am decidedly underwhelmed.  It measures but 3/16" across and less high, worse it only has 2 petals.  As luck would have it is flowering next to a poor flowered C. purpurascens which has an unusual box-shaped flowered measuring only 1/2" wide and high.

Hopefully next year the kuznetzovii will straighten itself out.

johnw

[Melvyn Jope]

Portraits of two cyclamen in flower today. Cyclamen purpurascens, a form from Kranjska Gora Slovenia which one might expect to see in flower now but there are also flowers coming on this nice dark form of Cyclamen hederifolium at least two months earlier than I would expect.

[Thomas Huber]

Last year I showed photos of my Cyclamen purpurascens from Lago di Garda
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4752.msg161293#msg161293
and promised seeds for 2011. They leaves died completely in our hard last winter,
and many seedpots disappeared but there are still some seeds  to give away....

If you want some please contact me soon before they are out!

btw - found the first flower one month ago and many more are coming out now 

[Paul T]

Wow, Thomas.  The pics in the link are breathtaking.  As you said there.... if only we could convey the scent as well.  Some excellent colours and leaf forms.

Melvyn,

That second hot pink one is bright, isn't it.

Here, we have a number of coum out in flower, and a few flowers here and there on some other species.  Very strange year weather-wise this year.  After so much rain last winter/spring and early summer, we've had a dry autumn and the driest June in more than 25 years ( a total of 9mm).  Some early cold with a couple of -7 ^oC and then some warmer nights with barely freezing has confused a lot of things, now we're back to -4^oC again most nights and we've got stuff flowering a bit out of season compared to usual.

[johnw]

Portraits of two cyclamen in flower today. Cyclamen purpurascens, a form from Kranjska Gora Slovenia which one might expect to see in flower now but there are also flowers coming on this nice dark form of Cyclamen hederifolium at least two months earlier than I would expect.

Melvyn - It is funny you should post a picture of this boxy-shaped purpurascens. Two years ago I grew a batch of seed from the CS and got some lovely leaf forms. However many flowered with these small boxy-shaped flowers (some were in fact extremely small) which I noted on the labels.  I thought I would grow the very best ones for the foliage alone. However this year they surprisingly have flowered with typical purpurascens flowers, some in fact larger than usual and with varying colour.  Are yours flowering for the first time?

johnw

[David Nicholson]

Just started to re-pot my 2008 sown seedlings into individual pots and a couple of queries someone may be able to help with.

Tony Willis kindly sent me seeds labelled Cyclamen creticum ssp anatolicum which I sowed in late August 2008. I can't find any reference to ssp anaolicum in my copy of Grey-Wilson (revised edition 2002) nor in the List of Species on the Cyclamen Society Web Site. Given that Tony is usually a "lumper" this seems odd.

As far as I'm aware C. repandum used to have two sub species, ssp rhodense and ssp peloponnesiacum. Later this became C. repandum and C. rhodium with 3 sub species, ssp rhodium, ssp peloponnesiacum and ssp vividum. The Cyclamen Society Web Site shows the original. Do I take it that the revision has not been accepted?

Any help appreciated, David's confused (again!)

[Hans J]

David ,

this is shure Cyc.graecum ssp. anatolicum

Hans

[David Nicholson]

Thank you Hans, you could well be right. Now, would Tony have written the seed envelope wrongly(unlikely) or did I have a senior moment (likely)!

[Hans J]

Glad that I could help you 

[Tony Willis]

Thank you Hans, you could well be right. Now, would Tony have written the seed envelope wrongly(unlikely) or did I have a senior moment (likely)!

David

let us just accept that Hans knows best. I do not like to think of either of us having senior moments! I am not that much of a lumper.

[David Nicholson]

..... and my second query re: the current status of C. reapandum etc??   

[Diane Clement]

As far as I'm aware C. repandum used to have two sub species, ssp rhodense and ssp peloponnesiacum. Later this became C. repandum and C. rhodium with 3 sub species, ssp rhodium, ssp peloponnesiacum and ssp vividum. The Cyclamen Society Web Site shows the original. Do I take it that the revision has not been accepted?

Your detail is currently correct, C repandum and C rhodium with the 3 sub species, ssp rhodium, ssp peloponnesiacum and ssp vividum.  The current Cyclamen Society seed list gives these species, the Cyclamen Society web site is a bit out of date. 

However, I'm sure we're overdue for another set of name changes 

[David Nicholson]

As far as I'm aware C. repandum used to have two sub species, ssp rhodense and ssp peloponnesiacum. Later this became C. repandum and C. rhodium with 3 sub species, ssp rhodium, ssp peloponnesiacum and ssp vividum. The Cyclamen Society Web Site shows the original. Do I take it that the revision has not been accepted?

Your detail is currently correct, C repandum and C rhodium with the 3 sub species, ssp rhodium, ssp peloponnesiacum and ssp vividum.  The current Cyclamen Society seed list gives these species, the Cyclamen Society web site is a bit out of date. 

However, I'm sure we're overdue for another set of name changes 

 

Many thanks Diane. As the specialist Society one would expect the Web Site to be upto date.

[Diane Clement]

Many thanks Diane. As the specialist Society one would expect the Web Site to be upto date. 

I think it's part of the current problem in many societies of willing but over-stretched volunteers