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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2011, 11:00:32 PM »
Would it be fair to say that my "sibthorpii" is more likely to be a form of C. cilicium?
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2011, 11:33:30 PM »
Hi Fermi,

I would say yes that is correct you can see from Otto's and my plants that bivonae (syn. sibthorpii) is chequered, much rosier in colour, has a distinct whiteness in the throat and  the pollen colour is different. It also has a different, distinct shape but I am still trying to get my head around the NZ notes. These are very specific and interesting but on first observations my plants don't conform so readily to.
The plant I have posted as C. cilicicum sets copious amounts of seed and has narrower leaves than the one I have posted as byzantinum which never sets seeds. But at first blush the flowers are VERY similar. Maybe my wild collection have slightly more richly coloured pink flowers and perhaps a more pronounced white central line. I think Betty might mean stigma or style rather than stamen??? Both my lots have violet tips to these and maybe the pollen on byzantinum does turn brownish, but I am not sure about this??

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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2011, 11:47:37 PM »
Hi again,

A few pics for point of comparison.

Colchicum bivonae syn. sibthorpii
Colchicum cilicicum wild collection
Colchicum ? byzantinum collected at old farmhouse surviving Heavens Knows how long in the wilds of Tasmania, never sets seed.

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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2011, 12:56:58 AM »
PS The crooked style tip as a "dead giveaway for C. byzatinum" -- Pacific Bulb Society, I don't think is sustainable on the evidence available in my pictures :-\.
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2011, 04:41:39 PM »
Few Colchicum's pictured today - Colchicum hirsutum and various stocks of serpentinum
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2011, 06:11:29 AM »
Some more Colchicums blooming now, few still unidentified - simply haven't ime for Colchicum's now.
Janis

Colchicum ancyrense Crim -01.JPG
Colchicum kesselringii -01.JPG
Colchicum kesselringii Modesty -03.JPG
Colchicum kesselringii Purple Star -01.JPG
Colchicum kesselringii x Janis -05.JPG
Colchicum kesselringii x luteum #2 -05.JPG
Colchicum sp. JATU-067 -03.JPG
Colchicum sp. SASA-236 -06.JPG
Colchicum szowitsii LST-167 -04.JPG
Colchicum triphyllum -02.JPG
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2011, 11:32:08 AM »
Some of my Colchicum's flowering now.bye Ray
Colchicum agrippinum
Colchicum parnassicum
Colichicum lustanicum
Colchicum micranthum
Colchicum autumnale alba
Colchicum spesiosum album
Colchicum speciosum bornmuelleri
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2011, 06:55:48 PM »
Few Colchicums
C. jolanthae from Iran - 2 pictures
C. lagotis was discovered during my trip together with Arnis and Gothenburg BG - we immediately recognised it as new, earlier unknown species.
2 pictures of Colchicum luteum
and unidentified Colchicum from Iran
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2011, 07:01:09 PM »
Few more spring Colchicums
C. munzurense
close to munzurense, but something different
C. raddeanum
C. robustum
and 3 unidentified samples.
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2011, 11:28:43 AM »
My first Colchicum in the summer/autumn season. The Prospero autumnale in the background have misunderstood something. It is summer now!

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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2011, 12:37:40 PM »
HELP!! I've not reached them yet!!
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #56 on: July 14, 2011, 08:17:27 PM »
My Colchicum graecum flowers this year very early.
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2011, 10:27:59 PM »
Colchicum Graecum is out here too Franz
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2011, 08:23:57 PM »
My first Colchicum in the summer/autumn season. The Prospero autumnale in the background have misunderstood something. It is summer now!
Poul

Very good form Poul ! Like the good tessellation . Here parnassicum is stil not above the ground...
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Re: Colchicum 2011
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2011, 08:31:15 PM »
My Colchicum graecum flowers this year very early.
Colchicum Graecum is out here too Franz

Here graecum is stil a "sleeping beauty "... ;D Yours are realy early Franz and Peter.
The first here  for this season is Colchicum kotschyi .The weather was realy not so good last days ,so flowers not opened...
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