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Author Topic: Galanthus January 2011  (Read 61263 times)

emma T

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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #300 on: January 25, 2011, 03:09:04 PM »
Wow   :o  , thats much more orange than i thought it would be   ;D
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #301 on: January 25, 2011, 05:52:23 PM »
Hans I have the same experience . Here is a Photo I posted a couple of years ago as Son of Wendy  ::) Someone mentioned that if this were back crossed with Wendy it might produce Yellow children

Thank you Ian !

OK ....so we have to be patient ....

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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #302 on: January 25, 2011, 06:18:58 PM »
Joy Cozens really looking orange in bud
I am afraid it has a water or frost disease :'(

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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #303 on: January 25, 2011, 06:24:26 PM »
Edit - I was getting 'Joy Cozens' and 'Amberglow' mixed up.   ::)
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 07:36:29 AM by KentGardener »
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #304 on: January 25, 2011, 06:49:42 PM »
Someone mentioned that if this were back crossed with Wendy it might produce Yellow children

I'd be worried they had liver disease. ::)
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #305 on: January 25, 2011, 07:08:12 PM »
Here is a Photo I posted a couple of years ago as Son of Wendy  ::) Someone mentioned that if this were back crossed with Wendy it might produce Yellow children

All the anecdotes I have heard are that the son's and daughters of Wendy's Gold do not come out yellow.  I did not do a lot of genetics at school but I'm pretty sure I'm right that if the yellow colouration were down to a single recessive gene then one if four of the progeny (if crossed with itself) should be yellow whereas if crossed with something else to produce a plant which was then crossed with itself, one in eight of that second generation should be yellow.  I've never heard of anyone successfully breeding a yellow snowdrop from Wendy's Gold so either they are keeping it under their hat(s) or the odds are not that good.

On the other hand, other yellow snowdrops have arisen from the same population as Wendy's Gold (i.e. "Wandlebury Ring", "Bill Clark") so there must be something in the genes of that population that has the capability to produce yellows.     
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #306 on: January 25, 2011, 07:13:47 PM »
Thank you Alan for your information !

I have also not so big hope but it is worth a try...
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #307 on: January 25, 2011, 08:11:33 PM »
Well,I am worried now.It is the first year I`m growing it and never saw it before.The bible say`s Joy Cozens is tinged orange in bud and fading when in flower.The plant looks allright to me now but we will see in time. ???
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #308 on: January 25, 2011, 10:43:56 PM »
Loes don't be worried, just show us how it develops.
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #309 on: January 25, 2011, 11:33:24 PM »
Somebody has bred yellows using Wendys Gold. I hope I'm correct but will contact that person to get permission to show the results
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #310 on: January 26, 2011, 06:13:32 AM »
Well,I am worried now.It is the first year I`m growing it and never saw it before.The bible say`s Joy Cozens is tinged orange in bud and fading when in flower.The plant looks allright to me now but we will see in time. ???

I'm sorry Loes if I have worried you - I am sure I must have remembered incorrectly - it was a few years ago that I had the conversation.  It does look orange in your photograph.  :)
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #311 on: January 26, 2011, 07:18:22 AM »
Somebody has bred yellows using Wendys Gold. I hope I'm correct but will contact that person to get permission to show the results

Even if they don't want to show the results, I would be very interested to know the yield and whether they think that the yellow colouration is controlled by a single recessive gene.
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #312 on: January 26, 2011, 09:17:43 AM »
I think maybe Mark is referring to me. I crossed Wendy's Gold with Lutescens and got about 60% yellows. The genetics must be a little bit more complicated than a single recessive gene in each to get that many. They are nice yellows but unless they prove particularly vigorous or have some other feature I haven't seen yet, they will not be worth naming. One of the clones is shown here, with Wendy on the right.
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #313 on: January 26, 2011, 09:20:16 AM »
I should have said - you will have a better chance of yellow seedlings if you cross 2 yellow parents of different varieties.
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Re: Galanthus January 2011
« Reply #314 on: January 26, 2011, 09:23:49 AM »
Alan you are correct about yellow in genetics.
http://ringneckmutations.com/BlueBreedingPredictions.aspx replace blue with yellow
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