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Hans J

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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #390 on: December 03, 2011, 01:14:59 PM »
Thank you Hans for your informations !

It seems I'm not the only person who hold plants in his living / sleeping room  ::) ::) ::)

Good to know ....if I one day have P.maculata + praecox  :-\

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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #391 on: December 03, 2011, 03:36:37 PM »
Hi Hans,
The "reichenbachiana" type of praecox have a white lip with purple spots and no yellow marks, and have 3 callus ridges. I show a picture below. Pleione praecox is a quite variable species across its large range and intermediates are known between the "normal" types through to the "reichenbachiana" types through to the alba forms. (Maren's lovely form is just one such variant. ). This is why most botanists treat them all as simply Pleione praecox (so Pleione reichenbachiana is a synonym of P. praecox).

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Below: Pleione praecox "reichenbachiana" form:
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #392 on: December 03, 2011, 03:55:42 PM »
Hi Paul,
thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering when I discussed one of Ian B.'s plants with him, which looked very similar to mine and he told me it was 'just' a Pleione praecox. There is a bit of history why I ended up with the name "P. praecox v. reichenbachiana" for my plant:

1. I bought it from a German supplier as Pleione reichenbachiana at an exorbitant price, so I thought it must be the real thing.
2. I showed it to Ian and he had his doubts, so I downgraded the label to P. praecox v. reichenbachiana.
3. I then showed it to Phil Cribb, and he said that was OK, but maybe he was in a hurry and it was a bit dark.

Following your explanation, I shall go and change the label to P. praecox "Spotty". Then I know not to put it together in a bowl with the normal unspotted P. praecox.

If at any stage you have some or just one spare of your v. reichenbachiana, I would love to have it. :) :)
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #393 on: December 03, 2011, 04:57:55 PM »
After some reading about fighting against Brevipalpus I have found that Bifenthrin is not longer aviable here in Germany ...
Neem oil is not a probem ...and as horticultual Spray I have Promanal ...

What use other german Pleione growers ?

Any suggstions ?

Thank you
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #394 on: December 04, 2011, 10:00:04 AM »
Paul, thanks for the explanation. I wonder what the taxonomic status of "reichenbachana" would be if there would be no intermediate forms. One would possibly raise it to the subspecies level, possible higher? But given the clinal pattern that's impossible.

I am second in line after Maren if you happen to have some spare material of your very nice "reichenbachiana"! :)

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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #395 on: December 04, 2011, 01:27:25 PM »
Hi Maren & Hans,
Sadly I won't be able to share the reichenbachiana anytime soon. I have just 2 bulbs of this - and it has taken 4 years to go from the original one bulb to the current two. I find this with all my forms of praecox - they multply very slowly. The best I have ever done is for one bulb to go to 5 bulbs - but it took 10 years to do this. Is this everyone else's experience, or are my praecox simply not growing very well?? I don't have the same problem with maculata which multiplies moderately well.

Paul
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #396 on: December 04, 2011, 09:35:43 PM »
Hi Paul,

that's not my experience at all. My ordinary ones grow like the proverbial clappers. They're in my office in the winter, which is heated to just 5 degrees C, although the sun heats it up a bit more when it shines. And they go out in the garden in summer, where I tend to forget them. I grow them in bowls where they double and treble every year. They don't seem to like it in a pot on their own, nor do they make a lot of progress in seed trays; I don't know why. Bowls is the answer for me. ;D ;D ;D

I have to admit that the 'spotty' ones are much slower.
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #397 on: December 05, 2011, 10:30:33 AM »
Paul, all my praecox clones are multiplying steadily. This year most pseudobulbs have two new shoots and some even three! Last year mostly they had one (and some two) shoots and I can't explain why it differs from year to year. I see the same in maculata, last year most bulbs had only one new shoot. This year all my three clones have at least two new ones and some even three of four! The same for P. saxicola...I don't see this yearly differences in my other (spring-blooming) Pleiones...go figure ???

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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #398 on: December 05, 2011, 07:28:08 PM »
And here some  P. maculata from Cornwall
And here some more Pln. maculata from Czech Republic ;).
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #399 on: December 05, 2011, 11:20:08 PM »
Tomas, well done. :) :) :)
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #400 on: December 06, 2011, 12:11:32 PM »
Really beautiful pictures, Tomas.
Lars in Roedovre, Denmark.

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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #401 on: December 06, 2011, 07:43:25 PM »
« Reply #370 on: November 14, 2011, 08:02:41 PM » Karel T

« Reply #371 on: November 16, 2011, 12:05:45 PM » Jan Methorst

« Reply #414 on: December 05, 2011, 07:28:08 PM » Tomas

 All these P. maculata photos are quite delightful! Thank you for sharing  8)
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #402 on: December 06, 2011, 08:12:55 PM »
Maren, Lars, Maggi - thank you... :)
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #403 on: December 14, 2011, 09:11:21 PM »
Hello all

It is wonderfull to see al these Pleione in bloom. It is a real treat in these days with few light and stormy weather. Good job to you all.
I am very pleased with my first flower on Pleione Warfedale 'Pine Warbler'. I do find that the petals are more slender than with ohters that I have seen.

Greetings

Pieter
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Re: PLEIONE 2011
« Reply #404 on: December 15, 2011, 04:51:24 PM »
Pleione Wharfedale is so much Christmas. Even my vife enjoy the Christmas colors, and she is not an orchid lover.
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