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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #165 on: February 17, 2011, 11:39:48 PM »
Oh, didnt know that, I had checked the link and the picture came up for me.
I will ask the person if I can post their picture.

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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #166 on: February 18, 2011, 12:06:59 AM »
Fantastic KH Kris. So much nicer in the garden than in a pot, don't you think?
Have you been photoshopping Arthur? :D

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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #167 on: February 18, 2011, 01:33:11 AM »
Returned home today to find a lovely Iris reticulata had opened, joining the smattering of I. danfordiae already in bloom. Yay!
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #168 on: February 18, 2011, 04:02:27 AM »
He could be right Arthur, with those patches of heavier, solid colour. I just thought they were colour-enhanced in some way as both have more subtle colour for me. Oddly, the one time I had seed on KH and raised them to flowering, the first flowering also had those blue patches on the standards which seedlings shouldn't have had so early. Not sure about unless they'd picked up a virus before they flowered.
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #169 on: February 18, 2011, 05:00:38 PM »
Fantastic KH Kris. So much nicer in the garden than in a pot, don't you think?
Have you been photoshopping Arthur? :D

Lesley

Worringly Hans Achilles thinks both plants are virused.

Not being specialist in plant diseases I have been sensitized by this great forum - please have a look at following topics or replies:

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg74360#msg74360
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1438.msg34629#msg34629
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2862.msg107027#msg107027
 
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #170 on: February 19, 2011, 04:44:29 PM »
some people claim that Katherine Hodgekin is genetically unstable which causes the colour bleeding others say virus, I have never heard a scientifically definative answer, I prefere Sheila Ann Germany anyway, the colour is clearer. though I do have some KH.
Some retics here from Leonid Bondarenko, Lovely Lisa, Kolpakowskiana Solo and Enya, also Strike a Pose
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #171 on: February 19, 2011, 05:10:47 PM »
Peter

Very nice - all new to me.
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #172 on: February 19, 2011, 06:00:32 PM »
Thankyou Arthur, I have put your name in one where there may be a spare. Here is Violet Mystery, Velvet Smile and George (from last year) for comparison
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2011, 06:25:14 AM »
some people claim that Katherine Hodgekin is genetically unstable which causes the colour bleeding others say virus, I have never heard a scientifically definitive answer, I prefere Sheila Ann Germany anyway, the colour is clearer. though I do have some KH.
Some retics here from Leonid Bondarenko, Lovely Lisa, Kolpakowskiana Solo and Enya, also Strike a Pose

Don't trust to tales about "genetically instability" - it is only and only virus infection. Tales about "genetically instability" is very popular between Aril Iris Society members where all samples of such "unstable" hybrids turned virus infected. Both 'Sheila.....' and superficially similar 'Frank Elder' can be virus infected in same degree (AND SAME SYMPTOMS) as 'Katharine....' - only they are less cultivated, less multiplied and had less chances to get virus.
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #174 on: February 20, 2011, 12:27:05 PM »
Peter,
wonderful collection.  I really like the stature of I kolpakowskiana.  Have you tried crossing it with other 'reticulatas'?  I've only really just begun with retics, but that one is certainly on the list to aquire.

I have to agree with Janis, this idea of genetic instability just doesn't hold water.  One tends to mention it when no other answer is clearly there.  Plus, as we know, not all viruses show themselves clearly and become problematic or life threatening to their host.  I dare say culture has a strong impact in any case.  I've never noted any sign of virus on my 'Katherine Hodgkins', and they are from a commercial source.  Maybe I was just lucky as my culture with this iris was very hit or miss at first.   ;)

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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #175 on: February 20, 2011, 12:43:58 PM »
Peter,
wonderful collection.  I really like the stature of I kolpakowskiana.  Have you tried crossing it with other 'reticulatas'?  I've only really just begun with retics, but that one is certainly on the list to aquire.

I have to agree with Janis, this idea of genetic instability just doesn't hold water.  One tends to mention it when no other answer is clearly there.  Plus, as we know, not all viruses show themselves clearly and become problematic or life threatening to their host.  I dare say culture has a strong impact in any case.  I've never noted any sign of virus on my 'Katherine Hodgkins', and they are from a commercial source.  Maybe I was just lucky as my culture with this iris was very hit or miss at first.   ;)

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I'm afraid that kolpakowskiana (sensu lato) could be crossable (may be) only with pskemense and winkleri (or others from kolpakowskiana - I think there still are at least 2 species under that name). All other reticulatas are genetically very far from Central Asian Irises. Rodionenko those separated even as new genus Alatavia.

I was growing Katharine... for very long time, had great number of it and then - suddenly spotted one virus infected, after that - every spring I dug out a lot, checking plantings every day, replacing to new spot only healthy looking flowering size specimens and destroying all grains. Now my stock is ~10% of earlier size, but last spring I didn't saw any more with virus symptoms, but it don't mean that now it is healthy.

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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #176 on: February 20, 2011, 10:24:25 PM »
Had KH for one season only - it did not survive the hot and dry summer.
In contrary 'Harmony' is lasting here many years, Iris zagrica also likes the conditions.
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #177 on: February 22, 2011, 12:11:34 PM »
I can't even get close to competing with the rest of you, but here are the stalwards in my garden, other than SJ Dijt, which also thrives, but gets creamed by slugs for some reason.

Harmony-  freshly potted from the garden centre!  Looks like I know what I'm doing.  ;D ;D ;D  (and I can always use more of this lovely.)

Katherine Hodgkins  three different shots

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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #178 on: February 22, 2011, 09:46:17 PM »
I will add some colour too. All are planted outside. If anyone knows what cultivar the Iris reticulata  is I would be glad to know.
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Re: Reticulate Iris-2011
« Reply #179 on: February 22, 2011, 09:54:22 PM »
Nice, Rob!

I'ld say that retic is 'Harmony'.
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