Anemonella thalictroides 'Red Taiwan'

[Pascal B]

I have asked one of the collectors in Japan I have contact with and he had never seen this cultivar in Japan. And as you know from the Hepatica, they go nuts for doubles so where PC had that "Red Taiwan" from I don't know.

[Garden Prince]

I've mailed Paul Christian personally and he told me he had that specific Anemonella from a Japanese nursery which does not export anymore. So he wil not have it for sale anymore 

If I were Paul Christian I would first build some stock of this plant and  if I have a decent number of them I would start selling them. I know these Anemonellas grow slowly but the same is true for some other plants Paul Christian sells (double trilliums and Paris japonica for example).

[Lesley Cox]

Wim, and others, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. It could happen like that but I'm sure Paul Christian is advertising his plants honestly. In fact I did once know a nurseryman who listed things that he'd never had, as "sold out." but he didn't last in the trade very long.

[WimB]

Wim, and others, my comment was tongue-in-cheek. It could happen like that but I'm sure Paul Christian is advertising his plants honestly. In fact I did once know a nurseryman who listed things that he'd never had, as "sold out." but he didn't last in the trade very long.

I can imagine he didn't last very long... talk about misleading advertising.

Anyhow, I found someone who has three plants of this cultivar (which he hasn't seen flowering). He hopes to have them flowering this year...I'm curious to see if they will be as good a colour as in the picture.

[Pascal B]

If I were Paul Christian I would first build some stock of this plant and  if I have a decent number of them I would start selling them. I know these Anemonellas grow slowly but the same is true for some other plants Paul Christian sells (double trilliums and Paris japonica for example).

Then you assume that Paul Christian actually has a nursery of his own. But from the local nurserymen in that area I talked to, and who tried to visit the place Paul Christian operates from, they highly doubt that and it could very well be that PC mainly buys and re-sells and has some people growing the unsold stock for him. Unless someone on the forum knows otherwise?

[Lesley Cox]

I can't speak for now but when I and a friend visited him (by arrangement) in 1981, he did seem to have a nursery with large groups of plants lined out. I don't remember small plants growing in pots. When we arrived he was unpacking a large box of plants from the middle east though it has always been his contention that he didn't employ collectors or sell collected plants. We doubted this, at the time.

[kalle-k.dk]

Every year on 5 June, is a large plant market in Denmark, there are plant sellers from Germany, Holland and Belgium. One of these sellers had 3 pots of "Red Taiwan, we were lucky and bought one of these plants but the plants were small and very expensive, we hope it comes into flower this year.

[WimB]

Every year on 5 June, is a large plant market in Denmark, there are plant sellers from Germany, Holland and Belgium. One of these sellers had 3 pots of "Red Taiwan, we were lucky and bought one of these plants but the plants were small and very expensive, we hope it comes into flower this year.

Nice Karl,

if it flowers for you, would you be so kind as to post a picture on this forum...I really wonder if they are as good as they seem on PC's pictures.

[mark smyth]

I was told Paul Christian sells from his house/garage/shed as does at least one other UK nursery.

[kalle-k.dk]

if it flowers for you, would you be so kind as to post a picture on this forum...

Yes, of course, wim

[ArneM]

Wim, I've seen it already twice - as a very tiny plant and unfortunately without flowers. Anyway you could try this nursery: http://www.plantworld-holland.nl/

Another option would be the Oirlicher Schneeglöckchentage where it will be certainly sold by them. I think it was about 15 € the last time.

[WimB]

Wim, I've seen it already twice - as a very tiny plant and unfortunately without flowers. Anyway you could try this nursery: http://www.plantworld-holland.nl/

Another option would be the Oirlicher Schneeglöckchentage where it will be certainly sold by them. I think it was about 15 € the last time.

Thanks Arne,

I'll contact him.

[Gerry]

I was told Paul Christian sells from his house/garage/shed as does at least one other UK nursery.

I used to do the same for some years; but on a very much smaller scale I do know that PC was happy to buy in spare rarities from enthusiasts, and most nurserymen do this.

[Afloden]

  Is it even Anemonella? Anemonella thalictroides does not have broader dilated filaments. It does have thin filaments and prominent ovaries in the center. This looks far more like one of the Taiwanese Thalictrum. The photo on PC does not show petaloid stamens, but fertile ones. This looks suspiciously like Thalictrum urbainii.

 Edited to correct my statement about the filaments....
 

[WimB]

 Is it even Anemonella? Anemonella thalictroides has much broader dilated filaments and prominent ovaries in the center. This looks far more like one of the Taiwanese Thalictrum. The photo on PC does not show petaloid stamens, but fertile ones. This looks suspiciously like Thalictrum urbainii.

 

I have no idea. The pics I've seen are not very clear. As soon as I get my plant and it flowers I'll post a pic here. Someone who has seen the plant in flower told me the flower looks a lot like Thalictrum kiusianum.  But you might be very right; take a look here: http://www.shikoku-garden.com/lists/List2009/Thalictrum-Trautvetteria09.htm at: Thalictrum urbaini 'Taiwan Baika'.

Thanks for pointing that out, Aaron.